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From: "Chris Elmore" <elmorec@at*.ne*>
To: "Cam Banks" <cam@ca*.co*>, <ghmorris@te*.co*>,
    
Subject: Re: wkpp on tv
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:41:44 -0400
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Re: wkpp on tvCam,
     Like most shows of this type the producers do sell tapes of the =
show:=20

http://www.adventurevideos.com/store/p9pid74.asp

Copyright generally allows you to make a copy for your own use or use a =
small portion in a non-commercial environment. Making money or impacting =
their sales is crossing the line. The tape's only $20 + shipping. That's =
worth not having to hassle with finding someone to tape it off the =
satellite for you. Buying the tape also reinforces the producers to =
cover quality stuff. Mine should be in this week and no, I won't make =
copies for anyone.
C.

Chris Elmore
PalmettoSoft Technologies Corp.
(803) 233-2001 (work)
(803) 348-3055 (mobile)
=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Cam Banks=20
  To: ghmorris@te*.co* ; techdiver@aquanaut.com=20
  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:23 PM
  Subject: Re: wkpp on tv


  Ah, it's copyright all right, but it was a TV show on the Outdoor =
Living channel, not a videotape available for sale as far as I know.

  I can mpeg it and post it, but first:

  a) someone has to confirm that no one on the list minds, and that =
there isn't a commercially available tape from Outdoor Living.  It'd =
still be of dubious legality.

  b) I have to check my ISP's download limits; I'm pretty sure I would =
exceed them if a bunch of people started downloading large video files.  =
Anyone have a hardier website out there who wants the files?

  Cam


    From: "ghmorris" <ghmorris@te*.co*>
    Reply-To: <ghmorris@te*.co*>
    Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 22:48:45 -0400
    To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
    Subject: RE: FW: wkpp on tv




    Would this be a good time to point out that the tape is COPYRIGHT, =
and the RIGHT thing to do is buy a copy???

    George

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Manos Manoli [mailto:cytech@ma*.co*.cy*]=20
      Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:43 AM
      To: Martin.Goldberg@hy*.co*.au*
      Cc: Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com
      Subject: Re: FW: wkpp on tv

      Can enyone save it om Mpeg format so we can download it ?

      Or at the worse case anyone to send the tape over to this remote =
island
      where i live ??

      ;) Manos


      Martin.Goldberg@hy*.co*.au* wrote:

        Does anyone know if they are screening it in Oz, on Foxtel, or =
free TV?

        Anyone video tape it?

        Thanks
        Marty




        trey@ne*.co* (Trey) on 07/09/2001 10:38:49

        To:   "Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com" <mailto:Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com>  =
<techdiver@aquanaut.com> <mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com>=20
        cc:

        Subject:  FW: wkpp on tv




        -----Original Message-----
        From: Allyson [mailto:allysonclagett@ea*.ne*]
        Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:13 PM
        To: quest@gu*.co*
        Subject: RE: wkpp on tv


        According to this link the Florida Cave Diving/Adventure Quest =
on OLN
        (Outdoor Life Network) will come
        on again on the following dates.

        Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 8pm
        Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 11pm

        Todd and I enjoyed it, we'll probably watch it again...

        ~Allyson


        -----Original Message-----
        From: Bill Hulik [mailto:whulik@ya*.co*]
        Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:43 PM
        To: Alex Cena; quest@gu*.co*
        Subject: RE: wkpp on tv


        Chris Watt from northeastdir sent this earlier

        http://www.olntv.com/__defshows.cfm?sShowID=3DADVENTURE%20QUEST

        Bill

        --- Alex Cena <acena@ho*.co*> <mailto:acena@ho*.co*>  wrote:

          Can someone provide a link to the network that produced and =
aired the
          show?
          Usually, a videotape can be made available by the producer for =
a
          price.

          Thanks,

          Alex


          __________________________________________________
          "At least once every human being should have to run for his =
life, to
          teach
          him that milk does not come from the supermarket, that safety =
does
          not come
          from policemen, and that news is not something that happens to =
other
          people." - Robert Heinlein

          "Take your kids hunting so you don't have to go hunting for =
your
          kids." -
          Ted Nugent


            -----Original Message-----
            From: p farina [mailto:lostdiver61@ya*.co*]
            Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 11:24 AM
            To: quest@gu*.co*
            Subject: RE: wkpp on tv


            Unfortunately I did not see it either, No cable, no direct =
TV,
            no antenna either.  If someone needs it in PAL format I do =
have
            a machine that will take US standard and convert for the
            continent (i.e. Australia, New Zealand, UK)

            Patrick



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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Cam,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>     Like =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><FONT size=3D2><A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Copyright generally allows =
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environment.=20
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only $20=20
+ shipping. That's worth not having to hassle with finding someone to =
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copies for=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>C.</DIV>
<DIV></FONT><BR>Chris Elmore<BR>PalmettoSoft Technologies
Corp.<BR>(803) =

233-2001 (work)<BR>(803) 348-3055 (mobile)<BR> </DIV>
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  <A href=3D"mailto:cam@ca*.co*" title=3Dcam@ca*.co*>Cam =
Banks</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:ghmorris@te*.co*"=20
  title=3Dghmorris@te*.co*>ghmorris@telocity.com</A> ; <A=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Ah, it's copyright all right, but it was a TV show on
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the=20
  Outdoor Living channel, not a videotape available for sale as far as I =

  know.<BR><BR>I can mpeg it and post it, but first:<BR><BR>a)
someone =
has to=20
  confirm that no one on the list minds, and that there isn't a =
commercially=20
  available tape from Outdoor Living.  It'd still be of dubious=20
  legality.<BR><BR>b) I have to check my ISP's download limits; I'm =
pretty sure=20
  I would exceed them if a bunch of people started downloading large =
video=20
  files.  Anyone have a hardier website out there who wants the=20
  files?<BR><BR>Cam<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE><BR><B>From: </B>"ghmorris"=20
    <ghmorris@te*.co*><BR><B>Reply-To:=20
    </B><ghmorris@te*.co*><BR><B>Date: </B>Sun, 9 Sep 2001 =
22:48:45=20
    -0400<BR><B>To:
</B><techdiver@aquanaut.com><BR><B>Subject: =
</B>RE:=20
    FW: wkpp on tv<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2>Would this be a
good =
time to=20
    point out that the tape is COPYRIGHT, and the RIGHT thing to do is =
buy a=20
    copy???<BR></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
    size=3D2>George<BR></FONT></FONT>
    <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D2>-----Original =
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Manos=20
      Manoli [mailto:cytech@ma*.co*.cy*] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, =
September=20
      07, 2001 3:43 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
Martin.Goldberg@hy*.co*.au*<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
      Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: FW: wkpp on=20
      tv<BR><BR></FONT>Can enyone save it om Mpeg format so we can =
download it=20
      ?<BR><BR>Or at the worse case anyone to send the tape over to this =
remote=20
      island<BR>where i live ??<BR><BR>;)=20
      Manos<BR><BR><BR>Martin.Goldberg@hy*.co*.au* wrote:<BR>
      <BLOCKQUOTE>Does anyone know if they are screening it in Oz, on =
Foxtel,=20
        or free TV?<BR><BR>Anyone video tape=20
       
it?<BR><BR>Thanks<BR>Marty<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>trey@ne*.c
o* =
(Trey) on=20
        07/09/2001 10:38:49<BR><BR>To: =
  "Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com"=20
        <mailto:Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com>=20
         <techdiver@aquanaut.com>=20
        <mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com> <BR>cc:<BR><BR>Subject: =
 FW:=20
        wkpp on tv<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original =
Message-----<BR>From:=20
        Allyson [mailto:allysonclagett@ea*.ne*]<BR>Sent: Thursday, =

        September 06, 2001 2:13 PM<BR>To: quest@gu*.co*<BR>Subject: RE: =
wkpp on=20
        tv<BR><BR><BR>According to this link the Florida Cave =
Diving/Adventure=20
        Quest on OLN<BR>(Outdoor Life Network) will come<BR>on again on =
the=20
        following dates.<BR><BR>Sunday, September 16, 2001 at =
8pm<BR>Sunday,=20
        September 16, 2001 at 11pm<BR><BR>Todd and I enjoyed it, we'll =
probably=20
        watch it
again...<BR><BR>~Allyson<BR><BR><BR>-----Original=20
        Message-----<BR>From: Bill Hulik =
[mailto:whulik@ya*.co*]<BR>Sent:=20
        Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:43 PM<BR>To: Alex Cena;=20
        quest@gu*.co*<BR>Subject: RE: wkpp on tv<BR><BR><BR>Chris
Watt =
from=20
        northeastdir sent this=20
        =
earlier<BR><BR>http://www.olntv.com/__defshows.cfm?sShowID=3DADVENTURE%20=
QUEST<BR><BR>Bill<BR><BR>---=20
        Alex Cena <acena@ho*.co*> <mailto:acena@ho*.co*>=20
         wrote:<BR>
        <BLOCKQUOTE>Can someone provide a link to the network that =
produced=20
          and aired the<BR>show?<BR>Usually, a videotape can be made =
available=20
          by the producer for=20
          =
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cable, no=20
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in PAL=20
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convert=20
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