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-----Original Message-----
From: "Paul M. Deniston"<pdeniston@me*.ne*>
To: "Rocky"<rocdiver@be*.ne*>, "Steve Schultz"<se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>,
"terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*>
Cc: "marv"<ajmarve@op*.ne*>, "Jim Cobb"<cobber@ci*.co*>,
techdiver@aquanaut.com
Date: Wed Aug 29 05:36:37 PDT 2001
Subject: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor

>I believe if you look at the required equipment for tech I section of the
>GUE web page, they specify 95's or larger.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rocky" <rocdiver@be*.ne*>
>To: "Steve Schultz" <se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>; "terry michael"
><OEA51@go*.co*>
>Cc: "marv" <ajmarve@op*.ne*>; "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>;
><techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:23 PM
>Subject: Re: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor
>
>
>> Who told you GUE Tech 1 requires twin 95s?  If diving wet, as most do for
>> Tech 1, twin 80s are the norm . . .
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Schultz" <se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>
>> To: "terry michael" <OEA51@go*.co*>
>> Cc: "marv" <ajmarve@op*.ne*>; "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>;
>> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 1:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I own double 80's and double 104's.  The 80's are feather light, and the
>> 104's aren't bad, but I'm in the gym every day.
>> >
>> > I dive cold water and need a ton of lead with my 80's.  I wear no lead
>> with my 104's (and alum backplate)
>> >
>> > I feel like I have better trim with my 104's than my 80's.  It's
>probably
>> in my head.  The 104's feel better on my back (subjective I know).  It's
>> easier for gas matching since my buddies also dive 104's (you dive thirds,
>> don't you?)
>> >
>> > It's also a matter of convienience.  I fill my 104's to 3000.  Last
>> weekend I did 2 light deco dives in 110'.  I got off the boat and did a
>> shore dive with a new diver.  He emptied his 80, and I still had gas in my
>> tanks for another shore dive.  I couldn't have done this with 80's.
>> >
>> > For anyone who is considering buying 80's or 104's, I leave you with
>this
>> thought.  They both have good and bad characteristics, but if you are
>> planning on GUE training, TECH 1 requires at least twin 95's which makes
>> your twin 80's useless for the course (except as stages) ;-)
>> >
>> > ss
>> >
>> > On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, terry michael wrote:
>> >
>> > > Again, I'm losing you here. Could you elaborate on this dive planning
>> stuff and exactly how it works. thanks
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: "marv"<ajmarve@op*.ne*>
>> > > To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*>
>> > > Cc: "Jim Cobb"<cobber@ci*.co*>, "MHK"<mhkane@pr*.ne*>,
>> "Michael J. Blitch"<mblitch1@ta*.rr*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
>> > > Date: Mon Aug 27 23:11:07 PDT 2001
>> > > Subject: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor
>> > >
>> > > >JIm's thing< and its not just Jim, there is a small group now> is
>that
>> > > >the only tanks for drysuit is the double 104's. this is despite
>> > > >commentary from George himself that for ocean, you dont need all that
>> > > >gas even in a drysuit and that double 80s should be enuff for most of
>> > > >what one might attempt.< "for ocean the aluminum 80 is the tank of
>> > > >choice">  The rationale seems to be  taught by most of your tek
>> agencies
>> > > >that you can never have enuff gas because "you never know what is
>going
>> > > >to happen" and people find this more comforting to embrace than the
>> fact
>> > > >that they need to exercise aerobically for diving.
>> > > >
>> > > >Personally i would suggest that you plan your dive and dive your
>plan,
>> > > >altering the plan only in the direction of being conservative during
>a
>> > > >dive. < i.e. less bottom time>. I would also suggest that if your
>going
>> > > >to carry a major reserve of one dive parameter<gas> you should have
>> > > >equvalent supply of any other<scooter/light burn>.
>> > > >
>> > > >Finally i would suggest that anyone who cant understand why huge
>tanks
>> > > >and a tiny scooter might not be a good idea should reread the last
>> > > >paragraph of Gavin's chapter and look in the mirror.
>> > > >
>> > > >marv
>> > > >
>> > > >ps i wear dbl 80s, drive a mako and set the treadmill on speed 8 at
>> > > >least once a day.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >terry michael wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Are we talking about diving thirds here or what? This is a public
>> list please explain what you are trying to tell us.
>> > > >
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> From: "marv"<ajmarve@op*.ne*>
>> > > >> To: "Jim Cobb"<cobber@ci*.co*>
>> > > >> Cc: "MHK"<mhkane@pr*.ne*>, "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*>,
>> "Michael J. Blitch"<mblitch1@ta*.rr*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
>> > > >> Date: Mon Aug 27 10:37:44 PDT 2001
>> > > >> Subject: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> so what are you saying Jim, that you dont plan your dives or dont
>> have
>> > > >>> the discipline to follow that plan ?
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> you are on the right track with respect to less is best, you just
>> need
>> > > >>> to take it all the way.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> marv
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Jim Cobb wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>> Gas=Life. Is that real enough for you?
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>    Jim
>> > >
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>> > > >>>>> From: marv <ajmarve@op*.ne*>
>> > > >>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:11:57 -0400
>> > > >>>>> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
>> > > >>>>> Cc: MHK <mhkane@pr*.ne*>, terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*>,
>> "Michael J.
>> > > >>>>> Blitch" <mblitch1@ta*.rr*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
>> > > >>>>> Subject: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> and yet you doggedly defend the concept of carrying three times
>as
>> much
>> > > >>>>> gas as needed for a given dive< see any old dbl 80 vs 104
>thread.>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Marv
>> > > >>>>> <keepin' it real, yo>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Jim Cobb wrote:
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> I would still like something smaller, don't see the point in
>> carrying 2
>> > > >>>>>> hours worth of burn time on a dive were your actual scooting
>time
>> is around
>> > > >>>>>> 20 minutes.
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>
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