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JT and boys I believe your your opinion is way off base, the Silent Submersion units are only comparable to a Gavin and Zepp performance wise, like the Gavin they both utilize a beefed up Oceanic Mako motor running at 24 volts my guess around 1300 RPM they are depth rated to 500 ft/ beyond and durable as hell. The Dacor/Apollo is a light duty inexpensive toy by comparison, yes you may mod the triggers and beef up the outer shell to handle a bit more depth but that is it. The Dacor runs a single 12 volt 24 Amp hr battery and run at 500 RPM the smallest SS unit uses 2 x18 amp hrs batteries and the mid range uses 2 x26 Amp/hr. So you can say that the SS unit is heaver and more expensive but the towing power of an SS is over 3 X more than any Dacor. You have to worry about the Dacors just making it to the dive site the case is so thin. DIR means just that buy the right equipment for the job and the SS unit is an expedition class scooter. I use the SS's addition power maneuvering in moderate to heavy current much like cave flow its bull nose breaks the water around the diver and equipment allowing you to handle more flow with less stress. In a more recent comparison an SS unit to Dacor i had to de-pitch the SS's prop to 4 out of 9 to allow the Dacor to barely keep up in a no current shootout and i had more gear. Having owned both there is no comparison and recommend that if you are into any level of technical diving and can afford it buy a real scooter.. A new Apollo will run you 2K where for 1.5K more you get 3 X the scooter. All this said, I do agree almost any scooter is better than no scooter at all. BB FYI Dacor and the Apollo av1 are on in the same. Dacor OEMs them from Apollo. http://www.apollosportsusa.com/products-av1.html www.silent-submersion.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendell Grogan" <wgrogan@dc*.ne*> To: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*> Cc: "Techdiver Mailing List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 8:39 PM Subject: Re: MOD for the new Mako was Re: Purpose of the List > OK, good to know. But let me ask, easier? In what way? Cheaper and > faster are more obvious. > Wendell > > Capt JT wrote: > > > > I have used the Silent Submersion, if you only dive past 225ft all the time > > then that is what its good for. It has little use or comparison to the > > Apollo/Dacor scooter, they are faster, easier, and cheaper..... better in > > my book.... > > > > At 12:27 AM 8/19/01 +0200, wendell grogan wrote: > > >If anyone is interested, Rodney Nairne's scooters have > > >been a good 50 meters deeper without any problems. He > > >sells them as Silent Submersion. > > >Wendell > > > > > > > > >--- Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*> schrieb: > Huh, > > >actually, 55m is essentially the same depth > > > > rating as a standard Mako: > > > > 180 feet MOD. I did take one down to that depth the > > > > other day, but > > > > considering how often they leak on just mild dives, > > > > despite major babying of > > > > the o-rings, I wouldn't trust one for anything > > > > serious. Likely you will end > > > > up swimming it back, full of water. > > > > > > > > Cam > > > > > > > > > From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*> > > > > > Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 08:54:55 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > To: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: MOD for the new Mako was Re: > > > > Purpose of the List > > > > > > > > > > Mako 2 and it's factory rated for 55m anybody done > > > > deeper? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: "Cam Banks"<cam@ca*.co*> > > > > > To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*>, "Techdiver > > > > > (E-mail)"<techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > > > > Date: Fri Aug 17 09:07:58 PDT 2001 > > > > > Subject: Re: MOD for the new Mako was Re: Purpose > > > > of the List > > > > > > > > > >> What new Mako, please? Thanks. > > > > >> > > > > >> Cam > > > > >> > > > > >>> From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*> > > > > >>> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 00:19:38 -0700 (PDT) > > > > >>> To: "David B. Widen" <dwiden@ho*.co*>, > > > > "Techdiver (E-mail)" > > > > >>> <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > > > >>> Subject: MOD for the new Mako was Re: Purpose of > > > > the List > > > > >>> > > > > >>> MOD for the new Mako. > > > > >>> The manual states 55m. thanks > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > > > >>> From: "David B. Widen"<dwiden@ho*.co*> > > > > >>> To: "Techdiver (E-mail)"<techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > > > >>> Date: Thu Aug 16 18:55:34 PDT 2001 > > > > >>> Subject: Purpose of the List > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> Let go back to tech diving issue and thoughts, > > > > drop the T & A stuff. This > > > > >>>> is > > > > >>>> not January with cold and blow out. It is > > > > August with great diving > > > > >>>> opportunities. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> David > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > ___________________________________________________ > > > > >>> GO.com Mail > > > > >>> Get Your Free, Private E-mail at > > > > http://mail.go.com > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> -- > > > > >>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > > > > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > > >>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > > > > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > > > > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > > >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > > > > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________ > > > > > GO.com Mail > > > > > Get Your Free, Private E-mail at > > > > http://mail.go.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > > > > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > > > > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________________ > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > >Gesendet von Yahoo! 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