That is a lot of gear you all carry, but I am sure it is all necessary or
you wouldn't carry it.  I am jealous of your team getting to do that type of
diving.  I wish I could get into that type of diving, but due to the usual
monetary concerns, I can only dream.  I have to settle for the diving I get
to do now.  A little wreck, but mostly shore diving.  Just have to settle
for the beautiful diving scenery of the Pacific Northwest for now.

BTW, after having done much reading on the DIR style, I have come to realize
that I pretty much dive that way already with my double 75's.  I have to
admit that DIR is the most comfortable, simple and practical way to dive
doubles that I have seen so far.  I like it, jsut didn't realize that I have
been doing it.  (Except for my TwinJet fins.  No need for anything more or
less right now.)

Call me a convert I guess.  I have been diving the same configuration since
January after having only been diving for two years.

D Burnworth
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trey" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: "David M. Burnworth" <xlh883@ea*.ne*>; "Techdiver@Aquanaut. Com"
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>; <quest@gu*.co*>
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 6:57 AM
Subject: RE: New European Record at Doux de Coly by WKPP divers


>
> Reinhard may have some, but you can see similar pictures on either the
> WKPP.org or GUE.com web sites. JJ and I do not use the double rebreather,
> but we do carry a lot of things with us, like five scooters each ,
safeties,
> and drive bottles. While we stage these throughout the cave and we do have
> teams that front run us out to quite a distance, we bring all of that gear
> back to within a mile and then a clean up team goes and gets that. For a
> about an hour of the dives, JJ and I are carrying five scooters, four
> bottles, and all the reels and peripheral tools. Keep in mind that JJ and
I
> also video the exploration and survey portion of each dive as well. You
can
> see clips from those videos taken some 19,000 feet into the cave on the
GUE
> site. Reinhard and Michael are training up a full team to do setups like
we
> do here, and of course Michael Waldbrenner and Reinhard Buchally dive with
> the WKPP and maintain a full complement of RB's , Gavins, and so forth
here
> in the States and fly over for the dives. In fact the last time Pina and I
> dove Wakulla we dove with these two guys.
>
> With the new RB 80, JJ and I have picked up some 50 feet per minute of
speed
> over the old unit, and we can fit anyplace that a set of doubles will go.
We
> are running 13 hours worth of HID light plus video lights for an hour,
12.5
> hours of scooter power, and the equivalent of 7,000 cubic feet of gas and
> netting out about 150 feet per minute including all of our staging stops.
>
> One massive advantage that JJ and I have now with this new unit is the
> continuing fact that we have already developed and proven decompression
> techniques that allow us to get out of any bottom time at 300 feet in less
> than 9 hours of deco, so it makes no difference whether it is 4, 5, 6, 7,
8
> or whatever number of hours, and with the new speed, we can do much
greater
> distances in the same times it took us to do the 18 and 19 thousand foot
> dives, which we will need since Leon Sinks is a siphon and there are no
> known sinkholes between Turner and Wakulla. That distance will be a
minimum
> of 50,000 feet, and just to get to where we are in Wakulla from Turner
going
> downstream is at least an additional 24,000 feet if the caves run in
> straight lines. This is why we needed the new RB 80, the missing link in
our
> program.
>
> Can you imagine trying what we do with an electronic rebreather, other
than
> bulletproof scooters, and anything but the kind of lights we use? Put that
> one in your deco program. We are normally so far into these systems that
> scootering out full speed with everything going perfectly takes as long as
> driving from Ft Lauderdale to Orlando. Think about how you would handle
> serious problems, or any problem, with three hours to go to get to the
door
> even with everything just right. I can tell you about some times we did it
> the hard way with everything going wrong, but even perfect is beyond the
> imagination.
>
> What Buchally and Waldbrenner did is the same thing - it is called having
> your shit together and executing. JJ and I were hoping that these two guys
> would break our record with that last dive to get us motivated . While we
> sorely miss Bill Stone, he was not really any competition. All he did was
> get JJ and I to make it ridiculous for the fun of it. With our own guys
> doing it, the concept changes and we start wondering what really can be
done
> with these tools and this team of divers, and we are certainly going to
find
> out.
>
> Let me also point out that while we have a lot of good divers, and there
are
> probably good divers everywhere ( or at least people who could be turned
> into good divers if they were around the right crowd ), most people who
are
> good enough to do this stuff are good enough to set for themselves the
limit
> of what they like doing. The neat thing about WKPP is we have the best
guys,
> and they all are doing exactly what they want to do.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David M. Burnworth [mailto:xlh883@ea*.ne*]
> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 5:28 PM
> To: Techdiver@Aquanaut. Com
> Subject: Re: New European Record at Doux de Coly by WKPP divers
>
>
> Are there any pics out on the net of people with double rebreathers and
> bailout bottles?  I am just curious how a person looks and deals with all
> that gear.
>
> D. Burnworth
>
> > same burn time. Reinhard was using double rebreathers and carrying all
of
> > his bail out bottles the whole way.
> >
> >
>
>
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