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Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:02:50 +1000
To: <swanncruz@oc*.ne*.au*>
From: billy@v3*.co*.au*
Subject: Re: On/offgassing of tooth fillings
Cc: "Joe" <joe@po*.co*>, "Ferry Ouwerkerk" <f.ouwerkerk@qu*.nl*>,
     "Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com"
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At 09:06 AM 15/08/2001 , swanncruz@oc*.ne*.au* wrote:
>Thats BS,
>Get a new dentist.
>I have crowns everywhere on my back teeth.
>Also, I was a dentist!!
>Now an orthodontist.
>Jeff the Darwinian.

Jeff, I was tempted to join the thread. We were up in Queensland on a job last
month and 
I bust open a filled tooth on a piece of oyster shell (no more fried oysters
for me) at 
dinner the night before the shoot.

I found a dentist who cleaned it out and packed it for me just before we were
due to hop 
on the boats. - I asked him to pack it instead of filling it 'cause he had to
rush and I 
wanted it open so there'd be no pressure problems.

But when I was spittng out the chunks, the amalgam filling came out as crumbly
black grit - 
no metalic qualities at all. I said "Man that's oxidised" and he said "Yes" but
I  couldn't 
ask him why 'cause he put his hand back in my mouth.

It was a silver mercury amalgam filling but it was like dry black sand inside.
Why is that? I 
thought those things were sort of inert and bonded so that the toxic metals
couldn't leach out. 
So how can oxygen get in?

Could a few hundred hours at elevated pp02s cause big fillings to oxidise
faster inside?

Or are all old silver amalgam fillings like that inside.

rgds billyw


>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: <mailto:joe@po*.co*>Joe 
>>To: <mailto:f.ouwerkerk@qu*.nl*>Ferry Ouwerkerk ;
<mailto:Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com>Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com 
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:12 AM
>>Subject: Re: On/offgassing of tooth fillings
>>
>>You need a new dentist.
>>  
>>Joe
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: <mailto:f.ouwerkerk@qu*.nl*>Ferry Ouwerkerk 
>>>To: <mailto:Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com>Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com 
>>>Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 2:56 PM
>>>Subject: On/offgassing of tooth fillings
>>>
>>>About 7 years ago, one of my fillings popped out after what was then a
normal ascent (18 metre/minute). I had all my fillings checked then and some
replced. The last 2 years I started diving a lot more, with a minimum of once a
week, but mostly2 or 3 a week. Dives have also become longer and deeper and it
happened again, twice and on 1 dive I had to suck the air out to keep the
filling in place. Also, every 2 or 3 months one or two fillings just have to be
replaced. It looks like they just crumble. All new fillings are being X-rayed
to check for cracks and to make sure no air is under it, or can get under it.
>>>  
>>>This made me wonder, do fillings take up nitrogen/helium? Can it be that
they offgass so slow bubbles are formed within, which causes these problems?
Anyone has the same problems? Maybe the teeth itself offgas in a way the
filling comes loose?
>>>  
>>>Thanks in advance for any answers
>>>  
>>>Ferry
>>>  
>>>PS. Yes, I do brush my teeth.
>>>  

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At 09:06 AM 15/08/2001 , swanncruz@oc*.ne*.au* wrote:<br>
<font face="arial" size=2><blockquote type=cite cite>Thats
BS,</font><br>
Get a new dentist.<br>
I have crowns everywhere on my back teeth.<br>
Also, I was a dentist!!<br>
Now an orthodontist.<br>
Jeff the Darwinian.</blockquote><br>
Jeff, I was tempted to join the thread. We were up in Queensland on a job
last month and <br>
I bust open a filled tooth on a piece of oyster shell (no more fried
oysters for me) at <br>
dinner the night before the shoot.<br>
<br>
I found a dentist who cleaned it out and packed it for me just before we
were due to hop <br>
on the boats. - I asked him to pack it instead of filling it 'cause he
had to rush and I <br>
wanted it open so there'd be no pressure problems.<br>
<br>
But when I was spittng out the chunks, the amalgam filling came out as
crumbly black grit - <br>
no metalic qualities at all. I said "Man that's oxidised" and
he said "Yes" but I  couldn't <br>
ask him why 'cause he put his hand back in my mouth.<br>
<br>
It was a silver mercury amalgam filling but it was like dry black sand
inside. Why is that? I <br>
thought those things were sort of inert and bonded so that the toxic
metals couldn't leach out. <br>
So how can oxygen get in?<br>
<br>
Could a few hundred hours at elevated pp02s cause big fillings to oxidise
faster inside?<br>
<br>
Or are all old silver amalgam fillings like that inside.<br>
<br>
rgds billyw<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite><blockquote type=cite cite>----- Original
Message ----- <br>
<b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:joe@po*.co*">Joe</a> <br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:f.ouwerkerk@qu*.nl*">Ferry Ouwerkerk</a>
;
<a href="mailto:Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com">Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com</a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:12 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: On/offgassing of tooth fillings<br>
<br>
<font face="tahoma" size=2>You need a new dentist.</font><br>
 <br>
<font face="tahoma" size=2>Joe</font><br>
<blockquote type=cite cite>----- Original Message ----- <br>
<b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:f.ouwerkerk@qu*.nl*">Ferry
Ouwerkerk</a>
<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com">Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com</a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 13, 2001 2:56 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> On/offgassing of tooth fillings<br>
<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>About 7 years ago, one of my fillings popped out
after what was then a normal ascent (18 metre/minute). I had all my fillings
checked then and some replced. The last 2 years I started diving a lot more,
with a minimum of once a week, but mostly2 or 3 a week. Dives have also become
longer and deeper and it happened again, twice and on 1 dive I had to suck the
air out to keep the filling in place. Also, every 2 or 3 months one or two
fillings just have to be replaced. It looks like they just crumble. All new
fillings are being X-rayed to check for cracks and to make sure no air is under
it, or can get under it.</font><br>
 <br>
<font face="arial" size=2>This made me wonder, do fillings take up
nitrogen/helium? Can it be that they offgass so slow bubbles are formed within,
which causes these problems? Anyone has the same problems? Maybe the teeth
itself offgas in a way the filling comes loose?</font><br>
 <br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Thanks in advance for any answers</font><br>
 <br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Ferry</font><br>
 <br>
<font face="arial" size=2>PS. Yes, I do brush my teeth.</font><br>
 </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></html>

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