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--part1_9b.195573c3.28a86717_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/12/01 4:05:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, thom.hadfield@ho*.co* writes: > Again for > those that want to through flames I already understand that independants > aren;t the best way to acomplish a dive. But I was recongnising the fact the > iso's arent the only way. > Thom: Most of us here recognize that there is more than one way to do anything. I look for the best, simplest, safest way. I don't care if there is an alternative to that (unless it is better, simpler and safer). I don't use the word stroke often, but my defintion is someone who knows better, but does it another way anyway. It sounds to me from the advice you've been given from your other sources that techdiver is a better source than any you've found yet. It's not a good way to learn the basics, or even to polish off what you know if you are already knowledgable. It's a source of information, and offers opinions and food for thought so that you can form your own. I recommend you save your pennies, take a Fundamentals of DIR class so that you'll know what equipment to spend your money on, instead of buying and practicing with the wrong stuff. After the Fundamentals class: dive, dive dive and practice, practice, practice. Then take a GUE Tech 1 class. Your other local sources are steering you wrong. Make the effort to learn it right so that you can dive safely. No one here wants you to be the next tech diver wannabe death we hear about. Jan In a message dated 8/12/01 4:05:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, thom.hadfield@ho*.co* writes: > Yes I have, I dive with an instructor often that is a friend who is trimix > certified and has done a lot of Lake superior and ocean diving. I am takeing > advanced nitrox and deco theory in sept. No this list is not my only source > but Being that there are not a lot of DIR instructores in this area I bounce > other ideas I have spoken with people about off the list for honest input. > In fact in my area most dive shope are TDI. I already know how most people > feel about TDI. I am looking at trimix next summer if I can afford to > assemble the apropriate gear and practice with the gear before the end of > next summer. I was looking at using independants on a 115-140(at the > deepest) foot dive using nitrox. And well I have not adapted the long hose > setup yet so I pass a short hose in any event. I also already have 2 spg so > it is not a cost. I am looking into re rigging and diving with a long hose. > I am currently set up with a primary, secondary, octo and spg on each rig. > Which I thought would be a little messy in an independant set up. I started > thinking about an independent setup from an Naui and IANTD instructor > suggested it as an option for the dive I mentioned above. I have been > patiently looking on ebay for a descent used manifold but I haven't ran > across a good deal yet. I do see their are more drawbacks than I had > originally thought about. As far as do i use this list for my soul tech > diving advice NO but I like to take in all the info and opinions I have > acess to. But I also relise opinions are like asshole, everybody has one. SO > you have to sort through ands take some with a grain of salt. Again for > those that want to through flames I already understand that independants > aren;t the best way to acomplish a dive. But I was recongnising the fact the > iso's arent the only way. > Visit my web page with underwater and other photos at http://members.aol.com/jsuw3/index.html --part1_9b.195573c3.28a86717_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#800040" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">In a message dated 8/12/01 4:05:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>thom.hadfield@ho*.co* writes: <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Again for <BR>those that want to through flames I already understand that independants <BR>aren;t the best way to acomplish a dive. But I was recongnising the fact the <BR>iso's arent the only way. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#800040" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0"> <BR>Thom: <BR> <BR>Most of us here recognize that there is more than one way to do anything. I <BR>look for the best, simplest, safest way. I don't care if there is an <BR>alternative to that (unless it is better, simpler and safer). <BR> <BR>I don't use the word stroke often, but my defintion is someone who knows <BR>better, but does it another way anyway. <BR> <BR>It sounds to me from the advice you've been given from your other sources <BR>that techdiver is a better source than any you've found yet. It's not a good <BR>way to learn the basics, or even to polish off what you know if you are <BR>already knowledgable. It's a source of information, and offers opinions and <BR>food for thought so that you can form your own. <BR> <BR>I recommend you save your pennies, take a Fundamentals of DIR class so that <BR>you'll know what equipment to spend your money on, instead of buying and <BR>practicing with the wrong stuff. After the Fundamentals class: dive, dive <BR>dive and practice, practice, practice. Then take a GUE Tech 1 class. Your <BR>other local sources are steering you wrong. Make the effort to learn it <BR>right so that you can dive safely. No one here wants you to be the next tech <BR>diver wannabe death we hear about. <BR> <BR>Jan <BR> <BR> <BR>In a message dated 8/12/01 4:05:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>thom.hadfield@ho*.co* writes: <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Yes I have, I dive with an instructor often that is a friend who is trimix <BR>certified and has done a lot of Lake superior and ocean diving. I am takeing <BR>advanced nitrox and deco theory in sept. No this list is not my only source <BR>but Being that there are not a lot of DIR instructores in this area I bounce <BR>other ideas I have spoken with people about off the list for honest input. <BR>In fact in my area most dive shope are TDI. I already know how most people <BR>feel about TDI. I am looking at trimix next summer if I can afford to <BR>assemble the apropriate gear and practice with the gear before the end of <BR>next summer. I was looking at using independants on a 115-140(at the <BR>deepest) foot dive using nitrox. And well I have not adapted the long hose <BR>setup yet so I pass a short hose in any event. I also already have 2 spg so <BR>it is not a cost. I am looking into re rigging and diving with a long hose. <BR>I am currently set up with a primary, secondary, octo and spg on each rig. <BR>Which I thought would be a little messy in an independant set up. I started <BR>thinking about an independent setup from an Naui and IANTD instructor <BR>suggested it as an option for the dive I mentioned above. I have been <BR>patiently looking on ebay for a descent used manifold but I haven't ran <BR>across a good deal yet. I do see their are more drawbacks than I had <BR>originally thought about. As far as do i use this list for my soul tech <BR>diving advice NO but I like to take in all the info and opinions I have <BR>acess to. But I also relise opinions are like asshole, everybody has one. SO <BR>you have to sort through ands take some with a grain of salt. Again for <BR>those that want to through flames I already understand that independants <BR>aren;t the best way to acomplish a dive. But I was recongnising the fact the <BR>iso's arent the only way. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#800040" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR><B>Visit my web page with underwater and other photos at <BR>http://members.aol.com/jsuw3/index.html</B></FONT></HTML> --part1_9b.195573c3.28a86717_boundary-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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