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From: ScottBonis@ao*.co*
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 01:33:28 EDT
Subject: Re: On high current diving
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Hi Jim,

I know you feel << ... I do admit to having a hard time feeling Manly 
Appreciation for those who drive their auto up to the lip of the water (fresh 
water, usually) don their equipment at their leasure on a dainty tarp so as 
to not dirty their feet. And then step into the water to knee depth, halting 
to adjust their gear and contemplate life before proceeding into the depths.

No, a dive just does not seem to be a dive unless you have spent hundreds of 
dollars on a boat trip, spent hours listening to the deafening roar of diesel 
engines, and either froze or sweated (or both at the same time) in your bunk 
wondering if you are going to get barfed on again. Ah, yes, and the oders 
eminating from the head. 

And it's just not the same if you don't wreck your back and smash your 
elbows/fingers/knees/shins getting on/off the pitching, rolling boat, have 
people stomp on and drop heavy shit on your feet and suffer the ravages of 
salt water and diesel fumes on your hair, eyes, skin and dive equipment... >>

But I think it's time I invited you to come down to Akumal and dive in "Car 
Wash," "Eden," "Chac Mool," "Taj Mahal," or "Tortuga."  Not only do the cars 
park real close to the water, but the water temperature is in the upper 
seventies (you don't see many dry suits) and the visibility is unbelievable.  
:-)

When I used to teach skiing, I had one student whose boots were built on the 
wrong last for his feet and so didn't fit well.  I corrected the problem by 
having him rent a different pair of boots.  He thanked me profusely and kind 
of sheepishly mentioned that he thought that the pain of ski boots was part 
of the sport of skiing.

I think you need to get back in touch with the fun of scuba diving.  And I 
hesitate to mention the help I often get from my students in carrying tanks 
down to the water. :-))

Cum'on down and I show you a different style of diving.  Try it, you'll like 
it. 

Take care and dive safe,       Scott

Some weeks it's just not worth the effort to gnaw through the restraints and 
scramble up out of the pit.



In a message dated 7/31/01 8:40:22 PM, Cobber@ci*.co* writes:
<< Dearest Thom-

I neither believe nor disbelieve your 7 knot currents. I guess I'd say I'd 
have to see it to believe it.

At any rate I the picture I had in my mind of being towed through the water 
at 7 knots was outlined in my post, nothing more.

And to be pissed off over such a blatantly silly post as mine points out some 
problems at your end, not mine, Sir. Perhaps an adjustment of your medication 
would be in order.

I suppose there are various ways to glamorize quarry and river diving, but I 
think that they are a different type of diving than ocean diving, presenting 
different, though lessor, challenges. But if that's all you've got then 
that's all you've got, I suppose.

But I do admit to having a hard time feeling Manly Appreciation for those who 
drive their auto up to the lip of the water (fresh water, usually) don their 
equipment at their leasure on a dainty tarp so as to not dirty their feet. 
And then step into the water to knee depth, halting to adjust their gear and 
contemplate life before proceeding into the depths.

No, a dive just does not seem to be a dive unless you have spent hundreds of 
dollars on a boat trip, spent hours listening to the deafening roar of diesel 
engines, and either froze or sweated (or both at the same time) in your bunk 
wondering if you are going to get barfed on again. Ah, yes, and the oders 
eminating from the head. 

And it's just not the same if you don't wreck your back and smash your 
elbows/fingers/knees/shins getting on/off the pitching, rolling boat, have 
people stomp on and drop heavy shit on your feet and suffer the ravages of 
salt water and diesel fumes on your hair, eyes, skin and dive equipment.

I'm not a horse higher than any of my other ocean diving brethren. I just 
can't resist tweaking you quarry and river types. Go out and do a few ocean 
dives and you may find out why you don't get much sympathy from me (and 
apparently a few others) on this list. Keep it light, Thom, we are just 
having a little fun.

 Jim >>
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