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> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3079247442_5532113_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Marty, thanks for the report of what really happened. As most divers on thi= s list know few dives go perfectly, that's why we plan for the worse and hope for the best. It takes courage for a diver to fess up to his or her mistakes and the let the list hear what went wrong. That is the true worth of this list is to learn (hopefully) from the mistakes of others. It is always interesting to read dive reports on these lists but with many of them you really want to ask "I wonder what really happened on that dive" and then you have to hear "off list" accounts of this clusterfuck or that. This is a shame and I think that more divers should follow Capt JT and your lead, tell the good with the bad and then take the abuse from the critics like a man. This way other divers can learn from others mistakes and avoid them themselves. I have to say though that if I was an open circuit diver with a gas problem= , the last thing I'd like to see is someone coming to "help" you is wearing a rebreather. This is no reflection of Christina's talents, but there is no way a RB diver can help you unless they are carrying stage bottles with the appropriate mix. I'm glad you survived your learning experience, this is truly learning the hard way and not a good way of going about things. Air mgmt and when to tur= n a dive should be learned long before you reach the point of doubles and dec= o diving. Jim From: MSCUBA68@ao*.co* Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 09:42:58 EDT To: FLTechDiver@mikey.net Subject: Re: air rescue Eric: I think you need to get your facts straight. As being the person who screwe= d up the dive I think I can better give a description of the actual events. Yes, I had equipment problems one being a free flowing regulator and the other being a mask that had a cracked seal. Instead of aborting the dive at the first sign of problem I let my Ego get the better half of me and could have cost me my life. I kept thinking things would get better and instead they got worse. =A0To say I had to be forced to leave the wreck, was an invalid or that the team leader freaked are false. I knew I was in a bad situation and needed to get help. =A0One of the problem with that dive I was diving with a buddy and there was really no pre established dive plan for the team, it was every man for himself. I knew I was in a bad situation did not have enough gas to make it to first gas change and got the attention of the team leader to get assistance. I would like to know if I was an invalid how did I alert her? When I swam over to her showed her my gauge and at tha= t point we left the wrecked. She was extremely calm at I owe her the utmost respect and thanks for assisting me in what could have been a much worse situation. =A0If I was diving Air I am sure the outcome the would have been different. I would have probably been narced on top of everything else. The lesson that I have learned and others can learn by my mistakes on the dive is when problems arise don't let ego get the best of you, and abort the dive. The other is diving with a buddy you know and trust and that will be there if something does go wrong. The events of that day have made me a much better and safer diver, I hope other can learn by my mistakes Sincerely, Marty : =A0=A0=A0FLTechDiver@mikey.net =A0=A0=A0 --MS_Mac_OE_3079247442_5532113_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: air rescue</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D"Courier">Marty, thanks for the report of what really happened. = As most divers on this list know few dives go perfectly, that's why we plan = for the worse and hope for the best. It takes courage for a diver to f= ess up to his or her mistakes and the let the list hear what went wrong. Tha= t is the true worth of this list is to learn (hopefully) from the mistakes o= f others.<BR> <BR> It is always interesting to read dive reports on these lists but with many = of them you really want to ask "I wonder what really happened on that d= ive" and then you have to hear "off list" accounts of this cl= usterfuck or that. This is a shame and I think that more divers should follo= w Capt JT and your lead, tell the good with the bad and then take the abuse = from the critics like a man. This way other divers can learn from others mis= takes and avoid them themselves.<BR> <BR> I have to say though that if I was an open circuit diver with a gas problem= , the last thing I'd like to see is someone coming to "help" you i= s wearing a rebreather. This is no reflection of Christina's talents, but th= ere is no way a RB diver can help you unless they are carrying stage bottles= with the appropriate mix.<BR> <BR> I'm glad you survived your learning experience, this is truly learning the = hard way and not a good way of going about things. Air mgmt and when to turn= a dive should be learned long before you reach the point of doubles and dec= o diving.<BR> <BR> Jim<BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Courier"><BR> <BR> <B>From: </B>MSCUBA68@ao*.co* <B>Date: </B>Thu, 26 Jul 2001 09:42:58 EDT <B= >To: <BR> </B>FLTechDiver@mikey.net <B>Subject: </B>Re: air rescue<BR> <BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Courier"><BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Courier"><FONT SIZE=3D"2">Eric:<BR> <BR> I think you need to get your facts straight. As being the person who screwe= d <BR> up the dive I think I can better give a description of the actual events. <= BR> Yes, I had equipment problems one being a free flowing regulator and the <B= R> other being a mask that had a cracked seal. Instead of aborting the dive at= <BR> the first sign of problem I let my Ego get the better half of me and could = <BR> have cost me my life. I kept thinking things would get better and instead <= BR> they got worse. =A0To say I had to be forced to leave the wreck, was an <BR> invalid or that the team leader freaked are false. I knew I was in a bad <B= R> situation and needed to get help. =A0One of the problem with that dive I was = <BR> diving with a buddy and there was really no pre established dive plan for <= BR> the team, it was every man for himself. I knew I was in a bad situation did= <BR> not have enough gas to make it to first gas change and got the attention of= <BR> the team leader to get assistance. I would like to know if I was an invalid= <BR> how did I alert her? When I swam over to her showed her my gauge and at tha= t <BR> point we left the wrecked. She was extremely calm at I owe her the utmost <= BR> respect and thanks for assisting me in what could have been a much worse <B= R> situation. =A0If I was diving Air I am sure the outcome the would have been <= BR> different. I would have probably been narced on top of everything else. The= <BR> lesson that I have learned and others can learn by my mistakes on the dive = <BR> is when problems arise don't let ego get the best of you, and abort the <BR= > dive. The other is diving with a buddy you know and trust and that will be = <BR> there if something does go wrong.<BR> <BR> The events of that day have made me a much better and safer diver, I hope <= BR> other can learn by my mistakes Sincerely, Marty<BR> <BR> </FONT></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Courier"><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><I>: =A0=A0=A0FLTec= hDiver@mi*.ne*<BR> </I><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Courier"><FONT SIZE=3D"2">=A0=A0=A0<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT><BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Courier"><BR> </FONT> </BODY> </HTML> --MS_Mac_OE_3079247442_5532113_MIME_Part-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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