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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: <ScottBonis@ao*.co*>, <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: WTF is Ed?
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 07:42:14 -0400

Scott, you want me to put out the scorecard on TDI? Be glad to do it right,
too. They are the worst in the business. Be glad to back that up until you
puke over it any time. You are way , way off base here.

-----Original Message-----
From: ScottBonis@ao*.co* [mailto:ScottBonis@ao*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:08 PM
To: wgrogan@dc*.ne*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: WTF is Ed?


Wendell,

I don't care who you are or how much you think you know about diving, please
knock off the snide comments about TDI.  Even though most of us on this list
support the DIR rules for diving, this is still the Techdiver list and not
Quest.  And whether you choose to believe it or not, the entire scuba world
does not revolve around DIR techniques.  Simply because I use and teach them
(because I think they represent the wisest and safest information available)
and because you use them, does not imply that they are the only possible
guidelines for diving safely.

There are a whole bunch of TDI instructors out there and the vast majority
are competent and conscientious scuba instructors.  I get real tired of many
of the people on this list taking cheap shots at TDI.  If you have a
specific
complaint about a specific item, then make it known to TDI headquarters and
they'll look into it.  Or let me know about it (on or off the list) and I'll
be glad to pass it along.

Perhaps you've heard about some TDI instructor that didn't teach some course
the way you thought it should have been taught.  It's certainly possible in
that I don't necessarily agree with some of the things that are taught.  But
I can do without the constant childish snide comments about the entire
organization.  The TDI instructors with whom I've dealt, teach safe and
competent diving techniques.

GUE seems to be a solid organization that has a reasonable control over what
the GUE instructor's teach.  But there are how many GUE instructors to
oversee, perhaps a few dozen worldwide?  Try comparing that to over 7,000
TDI
instructors and the control problem becomes significantly greater.

Why don't you try simply pointing out the valid differences between DIR and
some of the other methods being taught and leave out the derogatory comments
about other dive certification agencies?  You do not build yourself up by
tearing others down.  I have come to expect this behavior from all of the
DIR
zealot lemmings on this list but I would not have expected this from you.

Take care and dive safe,       Scott

Some weeks it's just not worth the effort to gnaw through the restraints and
scramble up out of the pit.




In a message dated 7/23/01 6:42:33 PM, wgrogan@dc*.ne* writes:

<<  References: One guy that has met him says he almost washed out of a
TDI
>course (This really sounds too impossible to believe but I pass it on
anyway).

How do you wash out of a TDI course?  Write a bad check, insult the
parentage
of the instructors wife?  Maybe we could come up with a dirty dozen....

Wendell >>
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