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The problem as was told to me by a member of the PA sate police u/w
search team/homicide unit is that pathologists arent familar with the
protocol for conducting an autopsy on persons exposed to elevated
presure. as a result when they do the exam most unintentionally and
unwittingly destroy what ever evidence there may have been of other
conditions. They then label most diving deaths as heart attacks because
all humans have some degree of CAD. It is interesting to note that post
mortems of commercial divers done by qualified examiners show much less
incidence of death due to "heart attack", and more due to venous emboli
and drowning, which points to diver error.
Another factor to consider w/ respect to diver autoposy is that many
life ins policies exclude hyper baric exposure, another reason for a
natural causes classification instead of diver error.
Marv
Carl W Muhlhausen wrote:
>
> Udo Rotmistrenko wrote:
>
>> I remember from my days in Germany, the dive clubs and certifying
>> agencies where really strict about that issue. You couldn't start with
>> the dive training unless you were "health"-certified.
>>
>> What are your thoughts about it?
>
>
> I'm against any additional regulations. I think it should be a diver's
> responsibility to make sure they're healthy enough to dive. The primary
> risk is to yourself and not others, so I can't see justification for
> government regulations. Technical diving organizations or even clubs
> should have the right to impose their own requirements on members as a
> condition of joining.
>
> As it is (ahem) PADI makes me fill out a full page form every time I
> take a course.
> Apparently anyone smoking more than a few cigarettes a day would need a
> doctor's letter to take a course.
>
> I am puzzled by the number of diving deaths due to heart attack. Either
> one of the symptoms of drowning is a heart attack or there's something
> about diving that causes apparently healthy males (mostly?) to have
> heart attacks.
>
> Carl
>
>> Udo
>>
>> --- In DIRNE@y..., Byron Grogan <groganb@h...> wrote:
>>
>>> Any clue what shop the instructors were from??
>>>
>>> Bill Hulik wrote:
>>>
>>>> It'll probably be listed as a drowning, but I hope they have the
>>>> intelligence to look at what caused him to drown in the first
>>>
>> place.
>>
>>>> At least they had the foresight to document the scene first and
>>>
>> take
>>
>>>> pictures.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Diver's body is found in old quarry
>>>>
>>>> Unidentified New Jersey man disappeared Tuesday in the water of
>>>
>> popular
>>
>>>> site.
>>>>
>>>> 07/19/01
>>>>
>>>> By PHIL BOYLE
>>>> Of The Morning Call
>>>>
>>>> Divers late Wednesday found the body of a 44-year-old New Jersey
>>>> man who disappeared Tuesday in 60 feet of water while practicing
>>>> dives at the Dutch Springs quarry in Lower Nazareth Township.
>>>>
>>>> Northampton County Coroner Zachary Lysek said the unidentified
>>>> man was found about 8:40 p.m. in 66 feet of water.
>>>>
>>>> He said the victim, who still had half a tank of air, was not
>>>> entangled in the quarry's submerged attractions.
>>>>
>>>> Lysek said he will perform an autopsy today to determine if the
>>>> man had medical conditions that may have led to his death.
>>>>
>>>> The man disappeared about 2:45 p.m. Tuesday as he and another
>>>> diver were in the water of the former limestone quarry with two
>>>> diving instructors.
>>>>
>>>> The search centered on the east end of the quarry, behind the
>>>> former National Portland Cement Co., which stopped production of
>>>> cement in December 1974. The plant is headquarters for East Penn
>>>> Transfer Co.
>>>>
>>>> Three divers and about a dozen other officials searched for the
>>>> body until a storm moved into the area Tuesday night. They
>>>> resumed the search Wednesday morning.
>>>>
>>>> Lysek said the divers who found the body did underwater
>>>> documentation and took photographs before taking the body
>>>> out of the water about 10 p.m.
>>>>
>>>> According to the Dutch Springs Web site, the facility features a
>>>> 47-acre freshwater lake that has been set up for scuba diving
>>>> with underwater platforms, submerged vehicles, aircraft and
>>>> other sights.
>>>>
>>>> The Web site says there is a variety of fish, including rainbow
>>>> trout, largemouth bass, bluegills, carp and goldfish.
>>>>
>>>> Dutch Springs is also a place for picnicking, boating, swimming
>>>> and snorkeling for nondivers, according to the site.
>>>>
>>>> Emergency workers at the quarry when the body was found came
>>>> from water rescue units in Somerset County, N.J., the Garden
>>>> State squad, Northampton County, Whitehall Township and
>>>> Pennsylvania.
>>>>
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