Mathias, I see you have reverted back to a moron again. There are about
fifty very good reasons why Poseidon's are garbage, not the least of which
is the upstream valve, the opv in the hose, the special fittings and hoses,
the fact that you can not scooter with one without taping over it or it
fills with water, and you can not pass one off without it being full of
water. Quit being such a fucking moron. The other ones run IP's that are
ridiculously high. Everything Poseidon makes is bullshit, and they refuse to
see how to correct the problems they have , and of course being hard headed
Swedes, they do not even admit that there are any problems. Why fuck with a
mess like that? We do not even allow the stupid things in the WKPP.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthias Voss [mailto:mat.voss@t-*.de*]
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:14 PM
To: Manos Manoli
Cc: Ed Street; rfuller@te*.ne*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: This is inspiration diving and people are supposed to die


Manos,
while most of your observations are correct, you may have missed some of
the good reasons why to choose which gear.

The operational flaw of the poseidon regs is that you cannot reach the
2nd stage membrane without tools.
This is an issue when you have to deposit and leave bottles at sites
where silt and dirt entering the reg can create a problem, really not
that much , if at all, on  a single dive to a wreck.
A likely flaw of the poseidon jetstream is offbleeding when supply
pressure drops below , say 40 bar. should not be a problem unles you
call for it.

Same goes for the clipping. No silt, dirt, corrosion( hopefully), no
clipping to vital parts which won't come off under stress, probably no
problem . I agree it should be a direktive to be able to  loosen any
connection made with means on hand durng the dive, though.

For the stages, do you know the manufacturer, and their bouancy
properties ? For sure ?
There are pretty light steel bottles around here.
Matthias


Manos Manoli schrieb:
>
> My GOD look at this guys ,  to be a stroke or no to be !!!
> Inspiration rebreathers , Steel stages on each side , OMS type wings ,
> Poseidon's regulators, handheld Lights ,  Hardware clips , Carbines , you
name
> it !!
> On their doubles BIIG stickers  T R I M I X.  Boodies on stages !! No
markings
> on stages !!!!! And they claim records and people have them as reference
!!!.
>
> >>Besides the worlds record deepest cold water dive<<
> What is this b#%#t ....
>
> Christmas time is getting close anyway !!!!!
>
> Manos Manoli
> www.smiley.cy.net/cytech
>
> For those idiots that didnt get it yet
>
> Ed Street wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > LOL! words of wisdom.  Tho when I dive in 50°F + water I don't use a
hood.
> > If it's cold enough for me to wear a hood it's to cold for me to dive!
;)  I
> > didn't notice the no hood thing nor did I get the water temp.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Fuller [mailto:rfuller@te*.ne*]
> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:07 AM
> > To: 'Ed Street'; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > Subject: RE: This is inspiration diving and people are supposed to die
> >
> > Ed,
> >
> > I know nothing about the Inspiration units so I'm not going to enter
that
> > discussion.
> >
> > However, I *do* know something about cold water diving.  Anybody that
would
> > dive in cold water, not to mention one that's 170m deep with huge
> > decompression obligations, without wearing a hood is brain-dead.
> >
> > Since the only bareheaded person in the pics was the one with the
> > Inspiration unit there might be something to this :-)
> >
> > --Rob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Street [mailto:blacknet@ph*.ne*]
> > Sent: 8.Jul.2001 8:15 AM
> > To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > Subject: RE: This is inspiration diving and people are supposed to die
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Someone wanna tell me why alot of ppl here doesn't like the inspiration
> > units?  From what  I've seen on them and the people i've talked to who
uses
> > that unit they good units.  The only negativity i've seen was from this
> > list.
> >
> > Besides the worlds record deepest cold water dive to the HMS Dasher
aircraft
> > carrier included an inspiration on the dive team, but they didn't use
DIR
> > (Died In Recompression) so I don't expect anyone here to understand it.
For
> > those of you with open minds here's the link to the memorial service
they
> > conducted http://www.technicaldivers.com/hms_dasher.html
> >
> > Ed
> >
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