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From: "Ed Street" <blacknet@ph*.ne*>
To: <skipmac@co*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: This is inspiration diving and people are supposed to die
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 22:41:11 -0400
Hello,

No I want figures on death by mechanical failures vs death by doing stupid
things.  It makes a *HUGE* difference.

Ed


-----Original Message-----
From: skipmac@co*.co* [mailto:skipmac@co*.co*]
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 10:38 PM
To: Ed Street
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: This is inspiration diving and people are supposed to die


At 01:23 PM 7/8/01 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
>You have some medical facts to back up this number of 12?

This is a totally asinine question.  What medical facts do you want?  Dead
is dead.  Do you need to see a copy of the coroners report stating the
person was actually dead and not just unconscious?




>Also it would be
>intersting to see how many died with 'dir equipment'

To be technically correct, I guess one could say that there have been a few
divers that died using DIR type equipment, but I know of none where a diver
died following all the "standards" of DIR.  Buying a certain set of dive
gear does not make one a DIR diver.  It is the proper use of that equipment
that is DIR.



>but who made silly
>mistakes and ended up dead.  Just like fighter planes.  The standards and
>equipment is so advanced that mistakes, when they happen, are almost always
>listed as 'pilot error'.
>
>Ed
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Braunbehrens [mailto:Bakalite@ba*.co*]
>Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 1:00 PM
>To: Ed Street; techdiver@aquanaut.com
>Subject: RE: This is inspiration diving and people are supposed to die
>
>
>Ed, I think you're right.  After all, no one has ever died on an
>Inspiration, and the newspapers are full of people who have croaked
>using the DIR method.  I think I'll sell all my DIR gear and just get
>an inspiration.
>
>In all seriousness, just look at the death toll.  That number alone
>should make it clear why your little joke about DIR is not funny, and
>why people call it the Buddy desperation or the Buddy Expiration.
>
>I believe the death toll is at 12 now, on the Inspiration.
>
>I don't need much more than this:
>
>Buddy Inspiration : 12
>DIR : Zero
>
>
>Next....
>
>Ed Street wrote:
>~
> >Hello,
> >
> >Someone wanna tell me why alot of ppl here doesn't like the inspiration
> >units?  From what  I've seen on them and the people i've talked to who
uses
> >that unit they good units.  The only negativity i've seen was from this
> >list.
> >
> >Besides the worlds record deepest cold water dive to the HMS Dasher
>aircraft
> >carrier included an inspiration on the dive team, but they didn't use DIR
> >(Died In Recompression) so I don't expect anyone here to understand it.
>For
> >those of you with open minds here's the link to the memorial service they
> >conducted http://www.technicaldivers.com/hms_dasher.html
> >
> >Ed
> >
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