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From: "Scott" <scottk@nw*.co*>
To: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>, "Techlist" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: accident
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 13:51:51 -0700
Do you have a boilerplate or link to definitions of Grade 1,2,3,4 ?

Scott


----- Original Message -----
From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
To: "Scott" <scottk@nw*.co*>; "Techlist" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 3:55 AM
Subject: RE: accident


>
> Scott, we have checked with Doppler for some number of years. The two
things
> that we get from this are 1) if the deco produced a low count, and 2) how
> long it takes us to peak in bubbles and clear. We run several teams on
> similar profiles and then we followed slightly different protocols and
then
> started the Doppler testing as soon as the divers surfaced and every half
> hour afterwards. In on case, we had Rose do it right and everyone else
from
> Trout to JJ do it almost right, and I just blew straight to the surface
from
> the 30 foot stop. Now it got interesting: Rose showed almost no bubbles at
> all - grade 1 at most. The others showed some increase on that all the way
> up to me who showed grade 4. Dr Johansen said I should "go to the
chamber".
> When I stopped laughing, he tested me again - nothing , not even grade
one,
> and that being only 1/2 hour later. This is just one example, but over
time
> what we found was that our standard methods as seen on our website are
> perfect, and the guys in the best shape as measured by VO2 max clear the
> fastest.
>
> The other tests we ran were the standard neurologicals and evaluation by
> Navy professionals ( who are on the team ) and we draw blood before and
> after looking for markers of damage. We do the blood on me and JJ - so far
> nothing. Scott Hunsucker is in charge of this area of our research.
>
> By the way, it is so funny to listen to the morons try to tell us about
> deco. The rebreather idiots keep yelling "constant ppo2" , the weenies
keep
> doing massive decoes, and the real idiots ( IANTD types ) use the wrong
> gasses.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott [mailto:scottk@nw*.co*]
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 9:55 AM
> To: Techlist; Trey
> Subject: Re: accident
>
>
> How much of a role did Doppler Stethoscopes play in your research?
>
> I know you guys worked with Hamilton and Mee, but how about a little of
the
> nuts and bolts of your development
> protocol?
>
> Scott
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
> To: <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>; <decoweenie@ya*.co*>;
<george.morris@ci*.co*>;
> <adamjma@op*.ne*>
> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 5:49 PM
> Subject: RE: accident
>
>
> > Some is pretty close, but the upper intermediate steps in RGBM are too
> long
> > and do not take advantage of some of my other tricks. For instance, I
can
> to
> > 6 hours at 300 and the total deco is 8, and the 40 foot stop is 20
> minutes.
> > RGBM will have that 40 stop out to the moon.  I pressed that one a while
> > back in an experiment, figuring I could go back and redeco if I got hit,
> and
> > it worked . There are a bunch of other differences as well. We do some
> > pretty radical stuff, but when then it works better than anything anyone
> has
> > ever come up with.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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