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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C104AC.D6CB7AB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, to even remotely imply that i'm an 'unsafe diver' simply because I don't dive in one manner is insane. First almost everyone here has never even seen me let alone dove with me. To imply things about that only puts these statments into question and also the validity of the speaker. I would strongly urge you to stick to the facts instead of spreading shit that you obviously know nothing about. -----Original Message----- From: Olediver@ao*.co* [mailto:Olediver@ao*.co*] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 4:41 PM To: blacknet@ph*.ne*; techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: Re: DIR setup Ed, I sincerely hope that you are not an instructor. Your apparent lack of diving experience and your attitude toward safety and standardization would be a terrible thing to pass on to unsuspecting students. Welll by YOUR above statment all the dir/hog setup breaks standards set by the recreational standards. It also breaks navy, NOAA and other standards to. So don't tell me not diving DIR breaks standards or how 'unsafe' I am for not trying to kill myself with a system that has issues. I've been diving for 36 years, most of this time as an instructor, (YMCA, PADI, NAUI, NACD, NASDS, CMAS, and IANTD) and to me, DIR is the best system for staying alive that I have seen associated with diving or dive training. To each his/her own. Just don't bash/condone those who disagree with you nor like your style. Remember you can't please everyone. I don't always agree with George (Trey) on something's, but I find it difficult to argue with success. DIR is the most successful system that has evolved in the diving world at this time. How far does this 'sucess' reach? Say if someone died then by the rules they are not "dir" and they are disowned. If it IS the most successfull then why isn't everyone jumping onthe bandwaggon? I'll tell you why. Because no one wants to hear their attitudes and egotistical approach to things. Equipment wise it maybe better but if everyone sees that equipment and the first thing they think about is how macho it is because of the actions of some people then how does that make it 'success'? In the business world that has a word for it, that word is "failure" If you ever plan to get into advanced or technical diving, I would suggest that you try DIR for a while and get familiar with it. From your post it is obvious that you haven't spent any time or effort using DIR. Well if you did actually know what your talking about instead of sprouting crap about me you would know that I HAVE tried it and I didn't like it nor will I use it again as in my case it makes absolutely NO sence to use it. There is several good points that it makes and I guess overall it's ok but it's not a solution for all cases. If you think it is then your close minded. All I ask if if you are going to attempt to enlighten me then don't talk crap about me, don't assume anything and stick to the facts at hand. Afterall we all know what they say about assume. Ed ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C104AC.D6CB7AB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4616.200" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D878505220-04072001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>Hello,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D878505220-04072001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D878505220-04072001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>to=20 even remotely imply that i'm an 'unsafe diver' simply because I don't=20 dive in one manner is insane. First almost everyone here has = never=20 even seen me let alone dove with me. To imply things about that = only puts=20 these statments into question and also the validity of the = speaker. =20 </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3D878505220-04072001><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2>I would strongly urge you to stick to the facts instead of = spreading shit=20 that you obviously know nothing about.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Olediver@ao*.co*=20 [mailto:Olediver@ao*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 04, 2001 = 4:41=20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> blacknet@ph*.ne*;=20 techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: DIR = setup<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Ed, <BR><BR>I sincerely hope = that you are=20 not an instructor. Your apparent lack of diving <BR>experience and = your=20 attitude toward safety and standardization would be a <BR>terrible = thing to=20 pass on to unsuspecting students. <BR><SPAN=20 class=3D878505220-04072001><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D878505220-04072001><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff> Welll</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT = face=3DArial><FONT=20 size=3D2><SPAN class=3D878505220-04072001> <FONT = color=3D#0000ff>by YOUR above=20 statment all the dir/hog setup breaks standards set by the = recreational=20 standards. It also breaks navy, NOAA and other standards = to. So=20 don't tell me not diving DIR breaks standards or how 'unsafe' I = am for=20 not trying to kill myself with a system that has=20 issues.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT = size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D878505220-04072001><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D878505220-04072001> </SPAN><BR>I've been diving for 36 = years, most=20 of this time as an instructor, (YMCA, <BR>PADI, NAUI, NACD, NASDS, = CMAS, and=20 IANTD) and to me, DIR is the best system <BR>for staying alive that I = have=20 seen associated with diving or dive training. <SPAN=20 class=3D878505220-04072001><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D878505220-04072001></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D878505220-04072001><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff>To each his/her own. Just don't = bash/condone=20 those who disagree with you nor like your style. Remember = you can't=20 please everyone.</FONT></SPAN><BR><BR>I don't always agree with George = (Trey)=20 on something's, but I find it <BR>difficult to argue with success. DIR = is the=20 most successful system that has <BR>evolved in the diving world at = this=20 time. <SPAN class=3D878505220-04072001><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D878505220-04072001></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D878505220-04072001><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff>How far does this 'sucess' reach? Say if someone = died then=20 by the rules they are not "dir" and they are disowned. =20 </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D878505220-04072001></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D878505220-04072001><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff>If it IS the most successfull then why isn't = everyone=20 jumping onthe bandwaggon? I'll tell you why. Because no = one wants=20 to hear their attitudes and egotistical approach to things. = Equipment=20 wise it maybe better but if everyone sees that equipment and the first = thing=20 they think about is how macho it is because of the actions of some = people then=20 how does that make it 'success'? In the business world that has = a word=20 for it, that word is "failure"</FONT></SPAN><BR><BR>If you ever plan = to get=20 into advanced or technical diving, I would suggest <BR>that you try = DIR for a=20 while and get familiar with it. From your post it is <BR>obvious that = you=20 haven't spent any time or effort using DIR. <BR><SPAN=20 class=3D878505220-04072001><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D878505220-04072001><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff>Well if you did actually know what your talking = about=20 instead of sprouting crap about me you would know that I HAVE = tried it=20 and I didn't like it nor will I use it again as in my case it makes = absolutely=20 NO sence to use it. There is several good points that it makes = and I=20 guess overall it's ok but it's not a solution for all cases. If = you=20 think it is then your close minded.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D878505220-04072001></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D878505220-04072001>All I ask if if you are going to attempt to = enlighten=20 me then don't talk crap about me, don't assume anything and stick to = the facts=20 at hand. Afterall we all know what they say about=20 assume.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D878505220-04072001></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D878505220-04072001>Ed</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D878505220-04072001></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D878505220-04072001><FONT=20 face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></H TML> ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C104AC.D6CB7AB0-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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