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From: "MHK" <mhkane@pr*.ne*>
To: "George Irvine" <George-Irvine@em*.ne*>,
     "aquanaut" ,
Subject: Re: Ships to reefs - I need your help
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 11:15:16 -0700
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Thanks Trey, good plan and I'll give it a shot...

Later
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: George Irvine=20
  To: MHK ; aquanaut ; quest@gu*.co*=20
  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:57 PM
  Subject: Re: Ships to reefs - I need your help


  Kane, when I want something I go to the local newspaper and get them =
fired up. Call the environmental editor and have that person bother =
Waxman. Those kinds of bleeding heart liberals fall for that trick every =
time. Make out like you are holding back some information so as not to =
piss Waxman off, and the newspaper geeks will wear his stupid ass out =
looking for the  missing link. You will end up with the whole mothballed =
fleet in your dive zone.
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: MHK=20
    To: aquanaut ; quest@gu*.co*=20
    Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 1:27 PM
    Subject: Ships to reefs - I need your help


    I've been working with Dick Long to attempt to get another ship sunk =
in California, but at this point I'm targeting Catalina Island.. Dick =
has been very free with information and assistance so I want to thank =
him in that regard. However, Dick has made it clear that he won't be =
doing the leg work again.. No problem I've told him I'm willing to do =
it..=20

    To that end, I've had some peripheral correspondence with my =
Congressman, Honorable Henry Waxman http://www.house.gov/waxman/=20

    Frankly, at this point, I'm at the lowest level of his priority list =
and have yet to have any direct exchanges with the Congressman and my =
sense is that the staff I'm dealing with perceives me as nothing more =
than a pain in the ass constituent that needs to be placated..=20

    There is a lot of work involved and I could use a little help with =
respect to getting governmental assistance.. Many on this list maybe =
aware that the US Navy and the Rand corporation issued a non-partisan =
study that discusses measures that can be taken to dispose of the =
roughly 400 ships that they Navy is REQUIRED to dispose of.. The study =
concluded that turning these ships into Reefs is the most efficient and =
effective way to dispose of them.. If they were to be scrapped it would =
cost 1.9 BILLION of our tax dollars.. Storage is costing $50 million of =
our tax dollars per year...=20

    Based on the success of the Yukon I'd like to see one of these 400 =
sunk off Catalina Island.. I've laid some of the groundwork, but this =
ambitious undertaking will require the involvement of the entire dive =
community once we get a little more down the road.. And trust me, I'll =
be hounding everyone of you ;-)..=20

    But at this point what I could use is a little help in getting Rep. =
Waxman's attention.. All I'm asking is that you drop him an e-mail =
discussing the issue.. I'd prefer not to provide a sample letter since I =
want it to come from your hearts, as interested diver's..=20

    Should you need help getting a draft together e-mail me privately =
and I'll share some thoughts.. This project has a long way to go and it =
is entirely to premature to issue details, but I will keep everyone =
apprised as we go down the line..=20

    Many lessons can be learned from the Yukon project and hopefully =
we'll be able to learn form Dick and avoid some of the delays that he =
faced..=20

    Please e-mail Rep. Waxman and help me put some pressure, or at least =
raise his awareness level..=20

    http://www.house.gov/waxman/=20

    Thanks...=20



    Michael Kane

    mhkane@pr*.ne*



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks Trey, good plan and I'll give it =
a=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Later</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3DGeorge-Irvine@em*.ne* =
href=3D"mailto:George-Irvine@em*.ne*">George=20
  Irvine</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmhkane@pr*.ne*=20
  href=3D"mailto:mhkane@pr*.ne*">MHK</A> ; <A =
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">aquanaut</A> ; <A =
title=3Dquest@gu*.co*=20
  href=3D"mailto:quest@gu*.co*">quest@gue.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 29, 2001 =
4:57 PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Ships to reefs -
I =
need your=20
  help</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Kane, when I want something I go to the local =
newspaper and=20
  get them fired up. Call the environmental editor and have that person =
bother=20
  Waxman. Those kinds of bleeding heart liberals fall for that trick =
every time.=20
  Make out like you are holding back some information so as not to piss =
Waxman=20
  off, and the newspaper geeks will wear his stupid ass out looking for=20
  the  missing link. You will end up with the whole mothballed =
fleet in=20
  your dive zone.</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dmhkane@pr*.ne* =
href=3D"mailto:mhkane@pr*.ne*">MHK</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">aquanaut</A> ; <A =
title=3Dquest@gu*.co*=20
    href=3D"mailto:quest@gu*.co*">quest@gue.com</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 29, 2001
=
1:27=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Ships to reefs - I
=
need your=20
    help</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P>I've been working with Dick Long to attempt to get another ship =
sunk in=20
    California, but at this point I'm targeting Catalina Island.. Dick =
has been=20
    very free with information and assistance so I want to thank him in =
that=20
    regard. However, Dick has made it clear that he won't be doing the =
leg work=20
    again.. No problem I've told him I'm willing to do it..=20
    <P>To that end, I've had some peripheral correspondence with my =
Congressman,=20
    Honorable Henry Waxman http://www.house.gov/waxman/=20
    <P>Frankly, at this point, I'm at the lowest level of his priority =
list and=20
    have yet to have any direct exchanges with the Congressman and my =
sense is=20
    that the staff I'm dealing with perceives me as nothing more than a =
pain in=20
    the ass constituent that needs to be placated..=20
    <P>There is a lot of work involved and I could use a little help =
with=20
    respect to getting governmental assistance.. Many on this list maybe =
aware=20
    that the US Navy and the Rand corporation issued a non-partisan =
study that=20
    discusses measures that can be taken to dispose of the roughly 400 =
ships=20
    that they Navy is REQUIRED to dispose of.. The study concluded that =
turning=20
    these ships into Reefs is the most efficient and effective way to =
dispose of=20
    them.. If they were to be scrapped it would cost 1.9 BILLION of our =
tax=20
    dollars.. Storage is costing $50 million of our tax dollars per =
year...=20
    <P>Based on the success of the Yukon I'd like to see one of these =
400 sunk=20
    off Catalina Island.. I've laid some of the groundwork, but this =
ambitious=20
    undertaking will require the involvement of the entire dive =
community once=20
    we get a little more down the road.. And trust me, I'll be hounding =
everyone=20
    of you ;-)..=20
    <P>But at this point what I could use is a little help in getting =
Rep.=20
    Waxman's attention.. All I'm asking is that you drop him an e-mail=20
    discussing the issue.. I'd prefer not to provide a sample letter =
since I=20
    want it to come from your hearts, as interested diver's..=20
    <P>Should you need help getting a draft together e-mail me privately =
and=20
    I'll share some thoughts.. This project has a long way to go and it =
is=20
    entirely to premature to issue details, but I will keep everyone =
apprised as=20
    we go down the line..=20
    <P>Many lessons can be learned from the Yukon project and hopefully =
we'll be=20
    able to learn form Dick and avoid some of the delays that he faced.. =

    <P>Please e-mail Rep. Waxman and help me put some pressure, or at =
least=20
    raise his awareness level..=20
    <P>http://www.house.gov/waxman/=20
    <P>Thanks... </P>
    <P> </P>
    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Michael Kane</FONT></P>
    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:mhkane@pr*.ne*">mhkane@prodigy.net</A></FONT><BR></P>
<=
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