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From: "Steve Schultz" <se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>
To: <quest@gu*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: So I got home and my tanks were empty...
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:51:46 -0400
Thanks.

Just a little survey:
How many tank neck orings have you guys blown, and what were the suspected
reasons?  This was my first.

What about the noise this would've made?  I wasn't around to hear them go.
How long would it have taken the air to escape?

I'm still a little apprehensive about plugging the disks.  I've never seen
one blow, and no one I know around here has plugged them.

ss

----- Original Message -----
From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
To: Steve Schultz <se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>; <quest@gu*.co*>;
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:41 PM
Subject: RE: So I got home and my tanks were empty...


> They got too hot and blew it out - that is why burst disks are for
morons -
> the ring goes.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Schultz [mailto:se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*]
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:07 PM
> To: quest@gu*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: So I got home and my tanks were empty...
>
>
> Well, there I was, sitting at home talking on the phone about a math
> assignment that I have due Wednesday, when I noticed that something was
> sticking out between my tank and the valve.  Upon closer inspection, I
found
> that it was the tank neck oring on my doubles that I had filled a couple
of
> days ago.  A chunck of oring about a cm long was extruding.
>
> I've only been diving 8 yrs and have never seen this before.  I figured
that
> I should crack my doubles to aleviate any remaining pressure.  There was
> none.  They were bone dry.  This sucks, but begs some questions that can
> hopefully be answered by those who've seen this before.
>
> 1) I've had about 20 fills on these doubles since I've broken then down
last
> for a vis.  There were no problems at all with the previous 19 fills.  Why
> did this happen now, and not 19 fills ago?
>
> 2) The tanks were overfilled by a mere 100 psi.  This shouldn't be enough
> for the oring to burst.  If it was an overpressure problem (from heat or
> magic or whatever), why didn't the burst disk go?  I've heard that the
disks
> are unreliable, but I still have them on my manifold.
>
> 3) How can I prevent this from happening again?
>
> 4) If a tank neck oring bursts in a forest with no one there to hear it,
> does it make a sound?  Seriously, how loud would this have been?
>
> 5) If this had happened under water, how much time would I have had to
> isolate before complete gas loss?
>
> 6) Comments?
>
> I'm going to break my doubles down after the assignment is due and look
for
> any rough spots on the tank neck where the oring sits.  I'm also going to
> pay special attention to make sure that it's seated properly.  Any other
> precautions I'm missing?
>
> ss
>
>
>
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