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From: "Bruce Sherman" <bruce.s@co*.co*.nz*>
To: "Techdiver List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: NY DCS hit
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:59:41 +1200
Organization: Convex Plastics
I am surprised that no law suits have been bought against manufacturers such
as OMS for Bondage wing type products which are clearly related to some dive
deaths. Or have they ?
Chaz

----- Original Message -----
From: MHK <mhkane@pr*.ne*>
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>; Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: NY DCS hit


> Cobb,,
>
> Part of the problem is that they still believe Maffatone was a pioneer..
> When you have guys worshipping idiots that do stupid things what do you
> expect???
>
> Could you imagine how many fatalities they would have back there if the
> season was 12 months a year???  It's a good thing they can't dive year
> round..
>
> Later
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>
> To: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>; "Tech Diver"
> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 3:19 PM
> Subject: Re: NY DCS hit
>
>
> > Well, the story gets better and better. Further news states that this
> idiot
> > *was* diving independent doubles and his problem was with his OMS
> > stuporwings. the knucklehead lost track of which bladder he had
inflated.
> >
> > So here we have a guy who has to worry about what air he has in his
> drysuit,
> > what air he has in which bungee wing bladder, what air he has in which
> tank
> > in his back gas, what air he has in his deco bottles, etc. etc. etc.
> >
> > Is this supposed to be fun? When will you knuckleheads out there get the
> > picture? When will the lightbulb come on? Is this sheer stupidity or
some
> > other bizarre manifestation which only psychoanalysis will be able to
> figure
> > out?
> >
> > Steve and Janet, why do you folks condone this shit? To what advantage
> would
> > it have been to you North East Dive Boat association to loose yet
another
> > mate? Why do you guys, respected members of the community up there,
> promote
> > this crap?
> >
> >
> >  -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/
> >
> > > From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
> > > Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:07:05 -0400
> > > To: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > > Subject: NY DCS hit
> > >
> > > Interesting story. As I recall this is the fellow who was particularly
> > > quarrelsome and pathetically stupid during last year's Wahoo wars on
> Tech
> > > Diver.
> > >
> > > This story seems to indicate that either he was breathing from
> independent
> > > doubles or doing that thing what nobody ever claims that they do,
using
> a
> > > pony to extend his bottom time.
> > >
> > > I'm sorry, but Janet and Steve, for how much longer are you going to
let
> > > this stupid stroke stuff go on up there? I am really wondering if
doing
> all
> > > that deep air has effected your brains like it has Tom Mount's.
> > >
> > > Clusterfucks like this do in two or three or more NE divers a year yet
> > > nobody seems to care. Is this a macho thing? Your normal excuse is
that
> you
> > > cannot "tell customers how to dive" but this guy was a mate, a paid
crew
> > > member and certainly you have say over what gear he uses. When will
you
> > > people wake up?
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/
> > >
> > >> From: "Al Wells" <fossildiver@mi*.co*>
> > >> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 03:10:23 -0400
> > >> To: <FlTechDiver@mikey.net>
> > >> Subject: NY DCS hit
> > >>
> > >> http://www.newsday.com/coverage/current/news/tuesday/nd3990.htm
> > >>
> > >> Oxygen Chamber Saves Scuba Diver
> > >> by Katie Thomas
> > >> Staff Writer
> > >>
> > >> A Connecticut man suffered a nearly fatal diving accident 60 miles
out
> to
> > >> sea when his suit took on too much air and he sped to the surface
> Friday
> > >> without allowing his body to properly decompress.
> > >>
> > >> The incident came at the end of what had been a fairly smooth dive
> around
> > >> the Texas Tower, a toppled radar station, said the diver, Mark
Shannon,
> of
> > >> Fairfield, Conn. An experienced diver and crew member for the Wahoo,
a
> dive
> > >> boat based at the Captree Boat Basin, Shannon was about to begin his
> ascent
> > >> from 140 feet in the Atlantic Ocean when he swallowed a mouthful of
> water
> > >> while switching from one air regulator to another.
> > >>
> > >> After several moments spent bringing his breathing under control,
> Shannon
> > >> began to head for the anchor line that would lead him to the surface.
> His
> > >> diving partner, crew member Nick Ricciardelli, had already begun
> untying the
> > >> line, so Shannon decided to try to make it to the anchor line before
> fixing
> > >> his suit, which had too much air.
> > >>
> > >> "I started to drift upward, and then I got farther and farther out of
> > >> control," said Shannon, 40, who has dived perhaps 700 times since
1989
> and
> > >> is a lieutenant in the Stamford, Conn., fire department. "Then I was
> flying
> > >> to the surface." Shannon considers himself a lucky man. Often such
> > >> "uncontrolled ascents" can be fatal. Air trapped in divers' lungs
> expands as
> > >> it reaches the surface and can rupture their lungs if they don't
> exhale, as
> > >> Shannon did. An air bubble could have become trapped in his blood and
> > >> reached his brain, causing stroke-like symptoms or death.
> > >>
> > >> "This guy was very lucky," said Shannon's doctor, Kenneth Hirsh, of
the
> John
> > >> T. Mather Memorial Hospital in Port Jefferson. "He was very fortunate
> that
> > >> he doesn't seem to have long-term problems." Instead, Shannon got a
> severe
> > >> case of what is known as "the bends," or decompression sickness,
which
> > >> happens when divers ascend too quickly and the nitrogen that has
> dissolved
> > >> into their tissue and blood while deep underwater turns into gas
> bubbles
> > >> that block blood flow and can impede the nervous system.
> > >>
> > >> Crew members immediately fished Shannon from the water and began
giving
> him
> > >> oxygen. Shooting pains stabbed his back, legs and nearly all of his
> joints.
> > >>
> > >> Captain Janet Bieser radioed the Coast Guard, and within an hour he
was
> on
> > >> his way to Mather and the hospital's hyperbaric oxygen chamber, which
> allows
> > >> the nitrogen to slowly dissolve.
> > >>
> > >> He spent eight hours in the chamber Friday and has received several
> two-hour
> > >> treatments over the past several days. Doctors say he is expected to
> fully
> > >> recover.
> > >>
> > >> Shannon's wife, Robin, learned of the accident Friday afternoon after
> > >> returning from errands with her daughter, Rachel, 3.
> > >>
> > >> "It's the kind of phone call you hope you never get," said Robin, who
> also
> > >> is an avid diver.
> > >>
> > >> Wahoo owner Steve Bielenda called Shannon an experienced diver and
said
> the
> > >> accident could have happened to anyone. "This is one of those domino
> effect
> > >> type of things. One thing goes wrong, you pay attention to it, then
> > >> something else goes wrong," he said. His boat conducts about 5,000
> dives a
> > >> year. Bielenda said Long Island sees three to seven such accidents
> every
> > >> year. Eleven passengers and five crew members made the trip aboard
the
> Wahoo
> > >> on Friday.
> > >>
> > >> Despite his ordeal, Shannon hasn't sworn off diving. If doctors
permit
> it,
> > >> he'll dive again. But "I don't know if I'll ever go that deep again,"
> he
> > >> said.
> > >>
> > >> Decompressing How patients are treated for the "bends" The increased
> > >> pressure of the chamber helps decrease the size of nitrogen bubbles
in
> a
> > >> patient who has decompression illness or the "bends," a painful and
> > >> dangerous condition usually associated with diving and caused by gas
> bubbles
> > >> in the bloodstream and body tissues. The chamber helps reduce the
> bubbles so
> > >> they can be reabsorbed into the bloodstream.
> > >>
> > >> 100 percent oxygen is pumped into the chamber at high pressure for
the
> > >> patient to breatehr. This is a high-pressure or "hyperbaric" dose of
> oxygen.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> During the course of treatment, whihc varies, the patient is given
air
> > >> breaks of 21 percent oxygen.
> > >>
> > >> In a pressurized chamber, the body is able to absorb two to three
times
> more
> > >> pure oxygen thatn if there were no increase in pressure.
> > >>
> > >> SOURCE: Kathy McGonigle, R.N.; John T. Mather Memorial Hospital;
World
> Book
> > >> Encyclopedia; Sechrist.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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