Restrictions to access in-the-field cultural heritage is necessary as the diver population grows. Most divers are allienated from the historical, biological, legal and other aspects related to their activity and that is why many abuse. I have seen kilometers of destroyed reefs off Eilat during the early 80's due to the "I take a piece home" philosophy. Only a harsh regulation by the Israeli government could save unique reefs off Dahab, Sharm El Sheik, Ras Mohammed and elsewhere in the Sinai peninsula. ***************************************************************** The same applies to wildlife and ecological systems: the US has achieved the highest degree excellency in wildlife/park management due to very early government regulation (dating from the late 1800's). So dont whin. There is a Congressional Research Service doing daily monitoring to the US Congress in these and other related matters. And I am not aware of any other country which puts so much attention/funds/efforts/know-how, etc. to conservation. ***************************************************************** While I may agree the Scandinavians may have a somehow "pathologic control mentality", you mention that Greece has banned diving but you do not say why: divers (not precisely Hellenic ones) have destroyed both marine archeological findings and Hellenic cultural heritage to such a degree, diving became a "national problem": you dont go to the Parthenon and take a piece home, you see ? And the same applies uw. Now, some of the more "libertarian" techdivers will "burst in anger" as they realize police and government control will cut off their "freedom". Policing and regulations are caused by knowledge, cultural identity, a will to preserve heritage and, most of all, clear abuses. cheers, aldo.solari@ho*.se* www.ccbb.ulpgc.es/fish-ecology/solaris ___ setohw@ya*.co* SJ> Here's a website with an on-line manual for conservation of SJ> everything from bone to metal to leather to paper. If you're SJ> gonna pick it up, this is a good place to learn how to save SJ> it: http://nautarch.tamu.edu/class/ANTH605/File0.htm -Seth SJ> Gilldiver@ao*.co* wrote: If I might add a few comments to SJ> what has been being posted. I am working with the State SJ> archaeologist in Connecticut. I found that you cannot fight SJ> them as they have the "Academic" background that get their SJ> side heard by the law makers. But if you work with them you SJ> may be able to guide their actions to avoid those wrecks that SJ> you as a diver want to dive. SJ> If you don't try to work with them you may find that wrecks SJ> are going to be restricted. Don't believe me? Take a look at SJ> the UK where all naval war wrecks may be posted as off SJ> limits. Or for the Great Lakes try Michigan where if you get SJ> caught taking an artifact from a wreck it is a felony. You SJ> want more restrictions: try Greece where they actually banned SJ> diving form most areas at one time (many are still banned) or SJ> Finland where just to dive a wreck you need advance SJ> permission, have to notify the Coast Guard when you enter the SJ> water, notify them when you leave the water, and don't even SJ> try to use a side scan or depth sounder to find a wreck. SJ> Now how do you get the background to work with them? The best SJ> place I have found is the Nautical Archaeological Society. SJ> Take a look at them at: http://www.nasportsmouth.org.uk/ SJ> Their system is built to be used by sport/wreck divers and SJ> teaches basic artifact data collection and preservation. Do SJ> some of the data collection and present it to your local SJ> State archaeologists and you may find that their positions SJ> just may soften. SJ> As for artifact preservation - lets face it all we collect is SJ> brass and glass, most of us don't know how to preserve wood, SJ> paper, leather, etc. It is not easy and can cost a lot. SJ> Peter Johnson -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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