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Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:23:34 +1000 (EST)
From: Jens Schamberger <schambrg@ch*.us*.ed*.au*>
To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
Cc: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>, vbtech@ci*.co*,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: The 490ft Dive Tape
Trey,

I am not sure which history you guys have but I am
grateful for the information JT puts out. He may
not be right all the time, and he had his stuffups.
But he never claimed to be the best or the one diver
without any flaws. He probably could have conducted that
dive in a better way, as you pointed out. But as
he said there is not a lot of information out there about
such dives. To be honest, just to think about 490ft scares
the hell out of me. He and his team did it, and they came
back unharmed. They must have done some parts right.
I can not believe that one can survive a 490ft dive just
by chance. This tape shows the mistakes the made. To admit 
to be wrong requires courage. I hope a many divers
will learn from this tape. I would love to see it.
At least it is one more source of information.


Regards, Jens.



On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Trey wrote:

> JT, my only suggestion before you show the tape - dub in some laughter. Then
> go find somebody that you will listen to who can set you straight.
> 
> Putting out a tape of extreme ignorance does not take "balls", JT, it takes
> ignorance.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:44 AM
> To: vbtech@ci*.co*
> Cc: FLTechDiver@mikey.net; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: The 490ft Dive Tape
> 
> 
> Hi Everyone
> VBTech has made a tape of the dive to 490ft in FL, in the tape the only
> thing that has been edited was an hr or so of boring deco and some unusable
> bottom footage . Some titles(for humor) and music have been added to give
> it features, nothing else. We chose to do this because no one, THAT'S NO
> ONE has had the balls to show their plan or thoughts on a extreme dive as
> it is happening that has not been choreographed or edited. We did this to
> help others who could learn from any mistakes we made and ourselves because
> no one has come out with any factual information on how to conduct these
> kinds of dives in the varying conditions they are made in.
> The only information to guide us on these dives are from books from those
> that have made some of these dives and then that info could have been
> altered just as emails on the list are to cover any faults of the dive.
> Factual information that one needs to conduct these kinds of dives are not
> available, so we are making one for our own use, wether others wish to use
> it as a guide for being the right or wrong way to do these dives I do not
> care, you should use it one way or the other. Which is why we taped the
> entire briefing at length nearly 45mins no edits to give us that"GOD LOOK"
> like the other tapes out there. There is also some bottom footage, but most
> was edited because while taking a compass reading to locate the wreck the
> camera light was knocked in front of the lens. There are 2 other dives on
> the tape  "Skycliffe" 200ft and "Hydro Atlantic" 170ft, mere weenie dives,
> but require respect just like all deep dives.
> 
> I have made wreck dives to 350fsw, 380fsw, 390fsw, 420fsw, & missed one at
> 490fsw and some of those have been more than just one dive to that depth
> without incident, other than skin bends one time. I am not the best diver
> out there or the most experienced, just a guy who truly loves to dive and
> push his own personnel limits, I consult those willing to give info and be
> part of any dive we do as safely as we can. The only person that has done
> these kinds of dives I could consult to their face is Ken Clayton, I chose
> to use his way as a guide for doing it wrong based on past performance and
> lack of leadership.
> 
> The tape will be shown at the next VBTech meeting on May 3rd at Lynnhaven
> Dive Center at the end of our meeting which starts at 7pm. I also give Capt
> Leo at "Dive Shop 2" in FL permission to show the tape publicly if he
> wishes to do so for you guys in FL at his convenience. Just let me know
> privately Capt Leo and I will post your answer and yes you have the right
> to refuse viewing to some on a personal bases. No coping of the tape will
> be permitted.
> 
> JT
> If you can't make the viewing you can always wait for it to come on
> Saturday Night Live, but don't hold your breath ;-)
> 
> 
> "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the
> water"
> Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
>   Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
> Email     captjt@mi*.co*
> 
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