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My showing is not proof enough, it just means I am not getting hit or getting any of the usual damage. I did not do enough deep air diving to get beat up too much, and what I did do was never any bottom time at all, so that did not show up. We checked me for that 10 years ago , and then again more recently. I called a halt to that when I found out about the red cell rigidity, and of course we had already been forced to mix to get anything done that we wanted to do. I luckily started gas diving well before I started cave diving, so I have not really done any cave dives on air other than in Mexico , and those caves are very shallow. I would love to see a study where you could take divers who never drank or did anything else that would damage the brain, and see if they look different than the "norm". In my case we were expecting to find damage and did not, especially in the bones. I never had anything even resembling CNS problems or motor problems of any kind, but some of the decoes were extremely experimental, and Bill Gavin thought that perhaps I did not have pain receptors in certain spots , so we checked me then and I got checked again two years ago, well after we had done some seriously severe diving. My bones look like I never did a dive, according to my doctor. Spine is the same. The poor guys who had been doing long times at "moderate" depths on air were not so lucky, they did show necrosis. -----Original Message----- From: Jens Schamberger [mailto:schambrg@ch*.us*.ed*.au*] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 9:42 AM To: Trey; Techlist Subject: Re: brain damage and divers Trey, thanks for your reply. > Jens, the only one of us who has been MRI scanned and bone scanned > extensively is me, and I show no necrosis of any kind and no spinal lesions. > My brain appears like anyone else's that is my age. Sounds like a prove or at least a strong hint that you do the right thing. > JJ is working on getting somebody to study the rest of us this way and in > other ways, but this takes a lot of money. I can imagine that these things are very expensive. I would think that the diving industry or at least companies like Draeger or Comex should be interessted in the research. > If I am not > getting wacked, then I doubt anyone else is either, however. Quite resonable. > data on this stuff. He is the one who showed me the spinal scans that > compared to an MS patient on "commercial" 200 foot air divers. That is frightening. > The fact is that "recreational" excesses in diving is what is more likely to > cause problems: repeated air diving to 100 feet or more and excursions > deeper on air, deco on air, and so forth. In other words, the uninitiated > get the penalty. Ok. Forget what I mentioned on the dive industrie, they will obviously have no interessed in further studies. Thanks, Jens. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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