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From: "David E. Smith" <dsmith218@ho*.co*>
To: "Trav H." <neoreborn@ho*.co*>, <JoelSilverstein@sn*.ne*>,
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Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Isolating Manifold Question
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:12:15 -0400
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Funny.
 I operate Nuclear Power Reactors for the US Navy.  We actually submerge
ours plants in
Sea Water.  It seems a little more related to this topic.  I do understand
valve construction.
It would appear that I understand them better than you.  A valve is NEVER
considered shut
unless it is FULLY SHUT (and in some cases torqued shut).  In some cases, we
take credit for
a valve being fully opened even when we know it is partially open.  So take
your
argument to someone who doesn't know any better.
dsmith218@ho*.co*
ICQ# 25409809

Moderation is for the poor, and the healthy...of which I am neither. -
Polver


-----Original Message-----
From: Trav H. [mailto:neoreborn@ho*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:40 PM
To: dsmith218@ho*.co*; JoelSilverstein@sn*.ne*; RDecker388@ao*.co*;
rikard.lundgren@sw*.se*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Isolating Manifold Question


sorry, but it is not a good argument.  I am new to DIR but I have been in
the nuclear power industry for over ten years now.  And if you understood
valve characteristics you would leave this subject alone and realize that
the people here are trying to keep you alive by not making mistakes that
they have worked out or seen others make.  The nuclear industry treats
valves the same way...if it is not fully open then it considered shut.  The
only time we throttle valves it to restrict flow in a system.  Not to
mention that the more you leave a valve throttled the more likely valve
damage is to occur.

Travis H.



>
>I say again, louder...
>
>If it is not shut, it is open.
>
>(This is a good argument, don't you think?)
>
>dsmith218@ho*.co*
>ICQ# 25409809
>
>Moderation is for the poor, and the healthy...of which I am neither. -
>Polver
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joel Silverstein [mailto:JoelSilverstein@sn*.ne*]
>Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 12:48 AM
>To: David E. Smith; RDecker388@ao*.co*; rikard.lundgren@sw*.se*
>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>Subject: RE: Isolating Manifold Question
>
>
>If it's not open it's closed.
>
>


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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Trav H.=20
[mailto:neoreborn@ho*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 17, 2001 =
8:40=20
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RDecker388@ao*.co*; rikard.lundgren@sw*.se*<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Isolating Manifold=20
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<P><FONT color=3D#0000cc>sorry, but it is not a good argument.  I =
am new to=20
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now. =20
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alone=20
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making=20
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nuclear=20
industry treats valves the same way...if it is not fully open then it =
considered=20
shut.  The only time we throttle valves it to restrict flow in a=20
system.  Not to mention that the more you leave a valve throttled =
the more=20
likely valve damage is to occur.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=3D#0000cc>Travis H.<BR><BR></P></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>I say again, louder...=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>If it is not shut, it is open.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>(This is a good argument, don't you think?)=20
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<DIV></DIV>>dsmith218@ho*.co*=20
<DIV></DIV>>ICQ# 25409809=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Moderation is for the poor, and the healthy...of which I =
am=20
neither. -=20
<DIV></DIV>>Polver=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>-----Original Message-----=20
<DIV></DIV>>From: Joel Silverstein [mailto:JoelSilverstein@sn*.ne*]=20
<DIV></DIV>>Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 12:48 AM=20
<DIV></DIV>>To: David E. Smith; RDecker388@ao*.co*;=20
rikard.lundgren@sw*.se*=20
<DIV></DIV>>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: RE: Isolating Manifold Question=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>If it's not open it's closed.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
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