This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0C382.7C3CD460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris , what you will learn is that if IANTD teaches it, it is probably = wrong. This particular piece of farm animal stupidity is from IANTD. = Only the worst idiot would tell you to keep your crossover close to = closed . This is a huge risk for gas mixing error, and there are no benefits. = Manifolds do not "fail", per se, they begin to leak ( I am not talking = about real pieces of shit, but a good manifold). The failure mode is = knocking off the right side knob ( in the on position) and then having = that reg freeflow, forcing you to shut down the isolator to save your = gas - a two part failure.=20 Failure to mix the gas properly is the real risk. In the WKPP, we do not = allow anything this stupid , or most anything else like this taught by = IANTD. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Tibble=20 To: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20 Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:28 PM Subject: Isolating Manifold Question Just a quickie. I'm just about to buy my first twinset with a = manifold. I've dived twins before, independents because of fiscal = reasons (I'm a poor student!) What I need to know is this. Some of the = people I have talked to who dive manis only open their iso knob about = 1/2 a turn, whilst others open it all the way. Thinking about it I can = see advantages and disadvantages to both: =20 All the way Adv: No risk of turning wrong way =20 Disadv: May get stuck if turned on all way Have to turn it 3 turns (or whatever) =20 Part way Adv: V fast way of isolating =20 Disadv: Can turn it the wrong way=20 Not having it open all the way may limit equalisation = across the manifold. =20 Now any or all of this may be unmitigated rubbish, but it's just what = I was thinking about last night. =20 Any comments/suggestions as to how best to do it? =20 As this is my first post, go easy on me - I'm still learning! =20 Many thanks, =20 Chris =20 =20 -- It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that = man. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0C382.7C3CD460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Chris , what you will learn is that if IANTD teaches = it, it is=20 probably wrong. This particular piece of farm animal stupidity is from = IANTD.=20 Only the worst idiot would tell you to keep your crossover close to = closed=20 ..</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>This is a huge risk for gas mixing error, and there = are no=20 benefits. Manifolds do not "fail", per se, they begin to leak ( I = am not=20 talking about real pieces of shit, but a good manifold). The failure = mode is=20 knocking off the right side knob ( in the on position) and then = having=20 that reg freeflow, forcing you to shut down the isolator to save = your gas -=20 a two part failure. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Failure to mix the gas properly is the real risk. In = the WKPP,=20 we do not allow anything this stupid , or most anything else like this = taught by=20 IANTD.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:chris.tibble@bt*.co*"=20 title=3Dchris.tibble@bt*.co*>Chris Tibble</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20 title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 12, 2001 = 1:28=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Isolating Manifold=20 Question</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just a quickie. I'm just about to buy = my first=20 twinset with a manifold. I've dived twins before, independents because = of=20 fiscal reasons (I'm a poor student!) What I need to know is this. Some = of the=20 people I have talked to who dive manis only open their iso knob about = 1/2 a=20 turn, whilst others open it all the way. Thinking about it I can see=20 advantages and disadvantages to both:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All the way</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adv: = No=20 risk of turning wrong way</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Disadv: May get = stuck if=20 turned on all way</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> = Have to turn it 3 turns (or=20 whatever)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Part way</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adv: = V fast=20 way of isolating</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Disadv: Can turn it = the wrong=20 way </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20 = size=3D2> &nbs= p; Not=20 having it open all the way may limit equalisation across the=20 manifold.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now any or all of this may be = unmitigated=20 rubbish, but it's just what I was thinking about last = night.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any comments/suggestions as to how = best to do=20 it?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As this is my first post, go easy on = me - I'm=20 still learning!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Many thanks,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It takes a big man to cry, but it = takes a bigger=20 man to laugh at that man.<BR></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0C382.7C3CD460-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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