Jens,  I agree most of the divers are gear-fixed. However, as you
well observe, "DIR" is a "system for diving" (under development).
And  that is the important part: these (DIR) guys have proposed a
framework on conditioning (mental+physical), gear, uw-operations,
scientific  work  (deco  experiments,  geological  and biological
sampling,  etc.).  They  have  talked  about  food,  tobacco (and
related  poisons)  and some drugs, body fat, training, etc. Also,
they   have  a  team  of  divers,  medical  doctors,  geologists,
programmers, data analysts, etc. Their task is huge. Furthermore,
some  of  the  senior  tech  divers have talked about meditation,
relaxing, visualization techniques, yoga, etc. The development of
a  holistic  framework  for diving will take years and these guys
are  pioneers.  I  certainly  hope  this  will  give  rise  to  a
**formalized**  theoretical-empirical  framework  university  and
other teams need to carry out uw studies. There is an urgent need
to  such a system.

cheers,

aldo.solari@ho*.se*
www.ccbb.ulpgc.es/fish-ecology/solaris
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schambrg@ch*.us*.ed*.au*

JS> Hi Don,


>> Why is it that when a system such as "DIR" exists, that people are so 
>> reluctant to use? 

JS> For most it is the delivery of the message. DIR sure is an excellent 
JS> system but it is delivered as the one and only system for diving.
JS> This disturbs divers which dive since years without any problem and not
JS> DIR. George's attidude to "stupid" questions is not really helpfull
JS> promoting the system to these divers. 
JS> The main problem may be, that DIR gets reduced to gear configuration.
JS> In my opinion it is supposed to be a system for diving, which includes
JS> Buddy-technics, mindset, fitness and various other things. But all we
JS> discuss is: "The hose to my pressure gauge is 100cm long, is that enough
JS> or should it be 110cm?" That is pathetic. 
JS> The mindset of DIR is the main point! Not the gear. Gear can and will
JS> change with new improvements coming to the market.
JS> This message is not delivered to divers. Most of them are scared away by
JS> George Irvine's rude comments. No offense ment George. I for myself always
JS> got helpful answers from George and the list. 
JS> But the poor guy with his Typhoon Drysuit did deserve better. :-)


>> A system that has been thought out so thoroughly and completely as to reduce 
>> the amount of failure points in a system, the simpleness of it,

JS> What is wrong with a Master BC, single tank and a good handheld
JS> torch (not the cheap american platic crap, get something like a
JS> Hartenberger). Breathe the long hose, you can do that on a normal
JS> jacket-style BC and it is an excellent idea to do it. 
JS> That is a very save system. It keeps your head out of the water, in case
JS> you are unconscious on the surface, has a hardpack with webbing and
JS> fits very well. DIR shure is a very good system. But the average
JS> recreational diver will never get in the right mindset, which envolves
JS> dedication, training, thinking about your gear and a lot of money :-).
JS> As a matter of fact DIR can not supply brain!
JS> You have to think for yourself. There may
JS> be way and places to dive which were never explored by any of the DIR
JS> advocates there you have to figure it out yourself. 
JS> Divers sure made additions and changes to the system, these have to
JS> be discussed as they may improve the whole system. I just refuse to
JS> simply follow an approach I want to understand it and there is always
JS> room for improvement. DIR does not make you a good diver or a technical
JS> diver! 
 

>> the fact it 
>> is the most streamlined system out there.

JS> To be honest I do not feel more steamlined diving my BP/Wings than in my
JS> old BC. My DUI 350 has so much drag that the BC only plays a minor role in
JS> steamlining. But I do not do 18000feet penetrations in a cave an will
JS> never ever try something like that, it would freak me out.

   
>> People still continue to keep their heads so far up their asses it is 
>> impossible for them to see the benefit of it. The amount of stupidity that 
>> exist is truly inconceivable.

JS> Never change a running system. :-) Divers take great pride in their gear.
JS> Over the years a lot of divers developed gear configurations and diving
JS> procedures which seem to work perfect for them. The problem is that e.g.
JS> a lot of divers insist on being self sufficent in an emergency under
JS> water. This forbids a manifold in their logic, without a manifold the 
JS> long hose is useless and there we go ...
JS> These systems are logical in themselfs, so is DIR. Which system you choose
JS> depends on how strong you belief in your Buddy. The list of such
JS> decisions is endless and involves deep air issues as well.
JS> (I know with DIR you do not dive deep on air)

>> I haven't been DIR from the beginning, but when I started diving with all 
>> that crap hanging on me,

JS> There are a lot of non DIR divers which have quite steamlined gear too.

>>  I felt like Bib the Michelin Man.

JS> :-))) 

>> No, I wasn't persuaded by anybody to DIR, 
>> had to find this out on my own. I sought it out. 

JS> You did. I agree it is a very good system. I still did not fully convert,
JS> but I am working on it. As I said it demands dedication!

>> You tell people of a better way and they say, "Naw, I'll just keep my head
up 
>> my ass and dive this way."

JS> The delivery of the message can be more important than the message itself.

 
>> So when Trey (George) gets bent (no pun intended) out of shape, I just read 
>> his remarks and feel the same way he does.

JS> I feel with him and some questions are stupid. I am sure I posted some
JS> stupid ones too. But: There is no reason to become unpolite and flame
JS> other who just want to learn! If somebody just wants to rant he should
JS> keep quite and not post at all. This is not an DIR only list!
JS> Even DIR needs the input of other mindsets to get better. There will be 
JS> no improvement without questions and criticism! 
JS> Isn't that the way George and JJ developed DIR?
JS> Isn't that what this list is all about, questions, critisism and answers?

JS> There is no excuse for being impolite on the net! 15 years ago I learned
JS> of something like netiquette,
JS> the name sound french but some americans should better read about it. 
JS> (I must add that rude behavior on the net seems to be most common in 
JS> US newsgroups or lists. Sorry folks just my experience)

JS> Bye, Jens.

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