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Hi Don, > Why is it that when a system such as "DIR" exists, that people are so > reluctant to use? For most it is the delivery of the message. DIR sure is an excellent system but it is delivered as the one and only system for diving. This disturbs divers which dive since years without any problem and not DIR. George's attidude to "stupid" questions is not really helpfull promoting the system to these divers. The main problem may be, that DIR gets reduced to gear configuration. In my opinion it is supposed to be a system for diving, which includes Buddy-technics, mindset, fitness and various other things. But all we discuss is: "The hose to my pressure gauge is 100cm long, is that enough or should it be 110cm?" That is pathetic. The mindset of DIR is the main point! Not the gear. Gear can and will change with new improvements coming to the market. This message is not delivered to divers. Most of them are scared away by George Irvine's rude comments. No offense ment George. I for myself always got helpful answers from George and the list. But the poor guy with his Typhoon Drysuit did deserve better. :-) > A system that has been thought out so thoroughly and completely as to reduce > the amount of failure points in a system, the simpleness of it, What is wrong with a Master BC, single tank and a good handheld torch (not the cheap american platic crap, get something like a Hartenberger). Breathe the long hose, you can do that on a normal jacket-style BC and it is an excellent idea to do it. That is a very save system. It keeps your head out of the water, in case you are unconscious on the surface, has a hardpack with webbing and fits very well. DIR shure is a very good system. But the average recreational diver will never get in the right mindset, which envolves dedication, training, thinking about your gear and a lot of money :-). As a matter of fact DIR can not supply brain! You have to think for yourself. There may be way and places to dive which were never explored by any of the DIR advocates there you have to figure it out yourself. Divers sure made additions and changes to the system, these have to be discussed as they may improve the whole system. I just refuse to simply follow an approach I want to understand it and there is always room for improvement. DIR does not make you a good diver or a technical diver! > the fact it > is the most streamlined system out there. To be honest I do not feel more steamlined diving my BP/Wings than in my old BC. My DUI 350 has so much drag that the BC only plays a minor role in steamlining. But I do not do 18000feet penetrations in a cave an will never ever try something like that, it would freak me out. > People still continue to keep their heads so far up their asses it is > impossible for them to see the benefit of it. The amount of stupidity that > exist is truly inconceivable. Never change a running system. :-) Divers take great pride in their gear. Over the years a lot of divers developed gear configurations and diving procedures which seem to work perfect for them. The problem is that e.g. a lot of divers insist on being self sufficent in an emergency under water. This forbids a manifold in their logic, without a manifold the long hose is useless and there we go ... These systems are logical in themselfs, so is DIR. Which system you choose depends on how strong you belief in your Buddy. The list of such decisions is endless and involves deep air issues as well. (I know with DIR you do not dive deep on air) > I haven't been DIR from the beginning, but when I started diving with all > that crap hanging on me, There are a lot of non DIR divers which have quite steamlined gear too. > I felt like Bib the Michelin Man. :-))) > No, I wasn't persuaded by anybody to DIR, > had to find this out on my own. I sought it out. You did. I agree it is a very good system. I still did not fully convert, but I am working on it. As I said it demands dedication! > You tell people of a better way and they say, "Naw, I'll just keep my head up > my ass and dive this way." The delivery of the message can be more important than the message itself. > So when Trey (George) gets bent (no pun intended) out of shape, I just read > his remarks and feel the same way he does. I feel with him and some questions are stupid. I am sure I posted some stupid ones too. But: There is no reason to become unpolite and flame other who just want to learn! If somebody just wants to rant he should keep quite and not post at all. This is not an DIR only list! Even DIR needs the input of other mindsets to get better. There will be no improvement without questions and criticism! Isn't that the way George and JJ developed DIR? Isn't that what this list is all about, questions, critisism and answers? There is no excuse for being impolite on the net! 15 years ago I learned of something like netiquette, the name sound french but some americans should better read about it. (I must add that rude behavior on the net seems to be most common in US newsgroups or lists. Sorry folks just my experience) Bye, Jens. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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