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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:33:54 -0800
From: Jack Farmer <jack@ma*.th*.co*>
Organization: The Crusader BBS
To: Sally Hooper <sallyhpr@ea*.ne*>, "quest@gu*.co*" <quest@gu*.co*>,
     "techdiver@aquanaut.com" ,
     Trey , Jarrod Jablonski
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Artifacts or not]
Sally;

I've forwarded this on to the list as well as techdiver another list where the
same kind of idiocy sometimes gets posted.

L8R

Sally Hooper wrote:

> Jack:
>
> A suggestion for the conference:
>
> Have a FAQ with this post and others (I'm sure their are LOTS more like it.)
> Called: Questions To and Answers From George Irvine:
>
> With an explanatory sentence of:
> George Irvine has had the same questions asked of him too many times by too
> many different people.
> Often people who do not know the whole history of events and who then get
> very insulted when George does not
> want to spend 5 hours explaining to them PERSONALLY the entire history of
> blah, blah, blah, or
> whatever it is....
>
> Please check this Frequently Asked of George List to see if your question
> has been asked before,
> notice George's answer, and proceed at your own risk.
>
> Am still chuckling. This flame is one of the best I've seen and rivals the
> best till now which was when
> I read one by the founder of Wildcat BBS Software who was flaming a person
> who was insinuating that Wildcat had security leaks
> founded on nada, zip, facts.
>
> What he said was: "Don't let you alligator mouth over-ride your hummingbird
> ass." etc.etc,.
>
> All I see is anger, rightly so, directed at ignorance and a touch of
> "piety"---GAG...
>
> I don't follow the list all the time, only get what you forward to me, but
> it seems to me there must be a zillion of these kinds of posts,
> the post must remain the same, only the sender changes...
>
> I think they should put up this suggested FAQ for George's sanity...
>
> Not everyone has a tolerance for idiots...
>
> Sally
>
> At 10:39 AM 03/29/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >Trey;
> >
> >Below is my wife's response after reading your message below. She said
> >she's not
> >had such a good laugh all week. she can not believe that self righteous
> >twit, and
> >swears she's gonna join the Georage Irvine fan club. haha
> >
> >BTW
> >
> >I just sent out those decals i mentioned to you. One will be very
> >appropriate for
> >THIS guy. haha
> >
> >L8R
> >
> >Sally Hooper wrote:
> >
> > > HAHAHAHA!!!!!!  Go trey!
> > >
> > > Sally
> > >
> > > At 10:24 AM 03/29/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> > > >Trey wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Look you blithering idiot, I have had it with you and your moronic
> > > > crap. You
> > > > > have posted nothing to this list but sheer stupidity and
> > confrontational
> > > > > bullshit. You have no clue what you are talking about as usual, but
you
> > > > want
> > > > > to question me like I am a liar. You will not get away with that on
> > here or
> > > > > anywhere else. You and I are permanently done with any civil
> > conversation.
> > > > > You are a complete idiot with no information and nothing but slop and
> > > > > conjecture in every post you make, and I am sick of seeing your
> > mindless
> > > > > opinions that have no basis in any fact or reality.
> > > > >
> > > > >  The fact is my gas supply company , Tri Gas , told me this EXACTLY
> > TO THE
> > > > > WORD of what I said on here when I ordered gas right after the Palm
> > Beach
> > > > > triple death in an IANTD gas course, and Mouth paid the price for
> > that one
> > > > > in court, and you can go check the record if you want to question
> > that. The
> > > > > gas supplier now "covers their ass" by making all of us buy medical
> > helium,
> > > > > even though I have had an account with them for 11 years.  I AM SO
> > SICK OF
> > > > > MORONS LIKE YOU WITH LIBERAL BULLSHIT ATTITUDES I COULD PUKE. The
> > NSS/CDS
> > > > > itself paid for the steps that were installed on St Joe land without
> > > > > permission. We have private property laws in this country, and
> > vagrant bums
> > > > > like the scum who did the steps seem to think that only should apply
in
> > > > > cases of drug enforcement.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Bill Johnson [mailto:sigxbill@sc*.co*]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 12:59 PM
> > > > > To: quest@gu*.co*
> > > > > Subject: RE: Re[2]: Artifacts or not
> > > > >
> > > > > George,
> > > > >
> > > > > In general, it is not a good idea to make generalities about
> > organizations.
> > > > > I doubt that there is a direct relationship between Tom Mount and your
> > > > > inability to buy non-medical grade helium, but I would be
> > interested in the
> > > > > details if there were this relationship. While I doubt that the CDS
> > or the
> > > > > NACD leadership was directly responsible for the shut rate you cite, I
> > > > would
> > > > > be interested in hearing about the details if there are any. What
> > comes to
> > > > > mind is that some moron with little or no CDS or NACD training went
> > in a
> > > > > hole they knew they were not certified for, died, and the CDS
> > and/or NACD
> > > > > took the heat for it. Was it CDS or NACD leadership or members,
working
> > > > > under the direction of those organizations, that built the steps
> > without
> > > > > permission or caused the total shutdown of the longest underwater
> > cave in
> > > > > the US? Or were they just dumb ass divers who happen to be
> > certified by one
> > > > > of those organizations? Since I do not live in Florida, I do not
> > see the
> > > > > things you see. While I am not arguing with you, I am questioning the
> > > > > appropriateness of your generalizations.
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree that the morons who do stupid things or get killed doing
stupid
> > > > > things are the ones who ruin diving for all of us by getting
> > businesses,
> > > > > governments, and property owners to react negatively. That is why I
> > > > > appreciate the mission of responsible and conservation oriented
> > > > > organizations like this one, the NSS, etc. However, it is important
> > to keep
> > > > > in mind this is the "do it right list", not the bash everyone else
> > list -
> > > > > that is what Techdiver was for.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > > > > From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
> > > > > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 06:47:03 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Guys, in general, the morons and strokes who do stupid things or get
> > > > killed
> > > > > >doing stupid things are the ones who ruin diving for all of us by
> > getting
> > > > > >businesses , governments , and property owners to react negatively.
> > > > Here in
> > > > > >Florida, I have to buy medical helium because that moron Tom
> > Mouth's IANTD
> > > > > >track record of deaths in "gas courses" here has caused the suppliers
> > > > to be
> > > > > >on red alert as to gases that might be used for diving. Also in
> > Florida,
> > > > > the
> > > > > >NSS>CDS assholes and the NACD morons have achieved an almost 100%
shut
> > > > rate
> > > > > >for most caves. Besides the usual fat beaded slob pot smoking
> > drunk in a
> > > > > >beat up VW bus act, these pieces of shit built steps to sinkholes on
> > > > > private
> > > > > >property without permission of the owners, and camped out like
vagrant
> > > > bums
> > > > > >on other private and Federal property starting fires that all led to
a
> > > > > total
> > > > > >shutdown of the longest underwater cave in the US. In wreck
> > diving, the
> > > > > >strokes off of the Seeker and other slob operations have attracted
the
> > > > > >attention of media everywhere with the kill rate on the "Doria",
> > and of
> > > > > >course we have the pillaging of artifacts in the Great Lakes and
> > in other
> > > > > >areas, and of course the while thing is exacerbated by the big
> > mouths and
> > > > > >the strokes, for whom diving is either a money maker from
> > instruction or a
> > > > > >substitute for a sport they can not play .
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Again, that is why we have orgs like WKPP and GUE. We make the
> > rules now,
> > > > > >and we will dive when the rest can only buy the video, if we are
> > not 80%
> > > > > >there already. In Greece one is not allowed to dive at all due to the
> > > > > >artifact stealing by scumbags.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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