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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:55:06 +0100
From: mat.voss@t-*.de* (Matthias Voss)
Organization: Harry Haller Memorial Fund
To: Wendell Grogan <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>
CC: vbtech@ci*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: New topic

Wendell,
There is a very rare russian Scuba working with 2 dewars, one of lox,
one of ( not sure ) nitrogen/ nitrox/ air. Self mixing, based on
evaporation temperature and partial pressure. Rare unit.
Pic are on a webpage somewhere. This is now in Brandenburg, Germany.
For patients needing longtime high flow oxygen it is standard to use
liquid oxygen.
The concentrators sometimes have a compliance problem with patients
because of their noise.

These could perhaps be used for ambient pressure mixing into a bag,
before filling it into tanks via a oxygen tolerant compressor. Some
normal compressors may be used up to 40 % oxygen, but I do not make a
statement on any other tbrand I am not familiar with. Anyway, at 60%
oxygen, the charcoal filters will explode .
Warning! Do NOT collect this to fill it as pure oxygen, calling for
desaster !!! .
 It is useless to use a  Haskel or similar transfer pump because this is
ambient pressure.

just my 2cc.
Matthias

Wendell Grogan schrieb:
> 
> OK guys, new topic.
> I was talking to some pulmonary people today and ran into a couple of
> interesting topics.
> First, liquid oxygen.  A tank of liquid O2, which wouldn't take up more
> room than a pair of doubles, can carry something like 34,000 liters of
> oxygen.  This is enough to supply 15l per minute for 7 hours.  Question,
> does anyone know if this could be applied to practical use on a dive
> boat- i.e.. emergency oxygen for deco symptoms, or use as a source of
> oxygen for mixing on a multi day dive?
> Second, there are "oxygen concentrators" that can be used to fill oxygen
> bottles.  The machines can deliver about 95% pure O2, at 2000psi at a
> rate that would fill a deco bottle in about 6 hours.  This might be
> useful for just plugging in at home, filling you O2 tanks during the
> week, and then going diving over the weekend.  The only down side I can
> see is that the units use about 800watts per hour.  Not a huge amount of
> electricity, but still not inconsequential.
> Wendell G
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