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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:41:32 -0500
From: Marv <ajmarve@op*.ne*>
Subject: Re: Underwater timers.
To: billy@v3*.co*.au*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
BIlly,

Whats really absurd is that he is blathering about deep stops on a no 
deco profile.

Hello, Mom?

If its really a no deco dive, just go up. 

Marv

billy@v3*.co*.au* wrote:

> At 11:28  13/03/01 , Paul Braunbehrens wrote:
> 
>> The only place this makes sense is when doing rec. dives and wanting to do a
couple of safety stops.  Doing a 2 minute stop at 1/2 the maz depth and a 3
min. stop at 15, I find it annoying not to have a seconds display, because I
end up having to round up, and might do a 2.59 minute stop.  It's just boring,
and since I want to be setup with 2 timing devices anyway, I just made sure the
second one has seconds on it.  It's not a question of timing stuff to the
second, it's a question of getting  an idea  of where you are in the minute,
beginning or end.
>> 
>> Other than that I agree with what you say.
> 
> 
> 2.59 instead of 2.00? Uhng! I think I've got a better solution 
> for you. Have you seen the research that shows that from a 
> decompression perspective, there is no safety to be gained from 
> 'safety' stops?
> 
> rgds billyw
> 
> 
>> <billy@v3*.co*.au*> wrote:
>> ~
>> 
>>> At 06:06  10/03/01 , Frank wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I just found that when on a deco stop, looking at a dive computer  would
show
>>>> the run time in minutes. Hence if I needed to do a 3 minute stop at 40m, my
>>>> actual stop would be between 3 and 4 minutes.
>>> 
>>> No. If you left your last stop on time and your ascent
>>> rate is steady, you won't miss anything off stops that
>>> are 10M/30ft apart cause the minute transit time is
>>> calculated into the run time. Between the longer stops
>>> that are 3M/10ft apart, your run-time should show the
>>> transit time as instantaneous so if you leave the last
>>> stop on time you'll clip, what? 20 seconds of the next
>>> stop. Insignificant. And you leave THAT stop on time
>>> so you don't accumulate the deficit.
>>> 
>>> However, since steady gradients are more efficient than
>>> 'stair-steps' for off-gassing when shallow, you're probably
>>> doing more deco-good for yourself spending that 20 seconds
>>> ascending TO the stop than hanging at it.
>>> 
>>> With an organic process like decompression in a chaotic
>>> system like the human body, timing stops to the second is
>>> a waste of time.
>>> 
>>> rgds billyw
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 'llo
>>> that are
>>> are 3M
>>> 
>>>>   If I need to do 3 or 4 deco stops
>>>> this could add 3, 4, or 5 minutes to my run time or it would change my
planned
>>>> time between deco stops. I know this is only a small point but I just find
it
>>>> annoying.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> cheers
>>>> frank
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <billy@v3*.co*.au*>
>>>> To: "Frank" <fbaars@bi*.ne*.au*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 2:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Underwater timers.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> At 06:00  8/03/01 , Frank wrote:
>>>>  >Billy,
>>>>  >
>>>>  >I use an analogue watch with depth and bottom time as my backup. The
watch has
>>>> a
>>>>  >large second hand which can be use as a stand-in stop watch.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What do you need to time in seconds?
>>>> 
>>>> rdgs billyw
>>> 
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