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At 12:53 PM 3/5/01 -0800, you wrote: >JT: I've made lots of mistakes. I've pretty well learned from them too. Kevin, was glad to be helpful in the things you missed in your training. >How about yourself? You still taking plastic scooter deep? How about >fixed deco in a current? Diving without your a scooter deep? Solo diving? No. the scooter bit it and I drift the currents if I can, am building one now for the deep stuff and only dive solo on the weenie stuff. > > >I think my point on techdiver is completely valid. And, for what it's >worth, I don't use rebreathers deep, either. (And I own one). I can understand your fears of the RB at depth, that is my point, you have one and have taken the class so you know not to take them down there. If you want I'll be glad to answer your others questions on post about deep diving you asked a while back. Have a nice day JT >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*> >Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:40:44 -0500 > > >Hey Kevin > >Aren't you the guy who thought you were suppose to leave the LP hose finger > >tight at the first stage, even after your class GUE class. I saved all my > >emails with you. Go away or I'll make you look silly. > > > >At 12:08 PM 3/5/01 -0800, Kevin Connell wrote: > >>JT, Do you drive a car? Ride in an airplane? I'm not even sure you can > >>walk, because legs have been known to kill people. > >> > >> > >>---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > >>From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*> > >>Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:20:41 -0500 > >> > >> >Hi George > >> >As there is always some truth and logic to your post, usually twisted but > >> >there, I will answer this one only and then no more. Yes, a RB would > be the > >> >best gear for that dive. I do not use one because there is not one > >> >available that cannot be linked to a death as the most likely cause. > Until > >> >one is made that is to my liking I don't want one, I'll let others > buy them > >> >and wait to see what happens, I feel very comfortable on OC and > believe in > >> >most problems I can solve on them, but out of gas is dead and at best > it is > >> >a risk. So all on this list do not try and do what I have just done. > I have > >> >no depth preoccupation, it is a dive addiction with adventure to it. Just > >> >so everyone understands that dive was at the extreme mental end of what I > >> >think I can take at this time, very few will ever know what a free > descent > >> >to that depth feels like. > >> >Thanks for the offer to work with your Dad and Chris, I already know > how to > >> >weld and that is real work, no fun involved. Just like you, I have no > >> >interest in real work. I have too much fun to let work get in my way. > >> > > >> >Thanks for the concern > >> >JT > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > At 06:29 AM 3/5/01 -0500, Trey wrote: > >> > > >> >>JT, don't press the bet with the wrong gear. Your life is worth more > than > >> >>that. Been there, done that. Take it or leave it. > >> >> > >> >>This depth preoccupation is a bad thing. Learn to weld and I can get > you in > >> >>on some 1000 foot dives with my dad's operation in the Gulf, or see > Chris > >> >>Werner of WKPP - he works for Schlumberger as a geologist on offshore > >> rigs - > >> >>he can get you some deep dives. Bring your tools. > >> >> > >> >>-----Original Message----- > >> >>From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*] > >> >>Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 10:47 AM > >> >>To: vbtech@ci*.co* > >> >>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > >> >>Subject: RE: Deep wreck in FL > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>I just got home, a bit tired from the drive. Will try to write my report > >> >>later today after some sleep. In it you will find we covered > everything you > >> >>said here and more, we had every local expert we needed/wanted > available to > >> >>pull it off safely and we did. > >> >> > >> >>At 07:03 AM 3/3/01 -0500, Trey wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >JT, these things are hard to hit due to the top current which usually > >> only > >> >> >extends down 150 feet, but can be up to 3 knots. We use 130 pound test > >> >> >dacron with a monel leader and a giant grouper ball to mark the > >> wreck, and > >> >> >then put a freediving float at the other end and scooter from the > float > >> >> >down. Fisherman can put a bait on an exact spot in any depth here > or they > >> >> >don't catch. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trying to drift these things is a nightmare due to guessing the > depth of > >> >>the > >> >> >current and the stress of a fast ascent. We do not do it that way > >> unless it > >> >> >is a must, and then we back off after the first 150 feet and go > slow, but > >> >> >that 2 or three minutes has to be exactly gauged relative to the > >> drift. We > >> >> >use a GPS handheld and check it several times before dropping for > >> real when > >> >> >we do it that way. > >> >> > > >> >> >500 foot wreck dives need to be done with a rebreather, not open > circuit. > >> >> >We've done some 450's open, but it was pain in the ass gas wise > and if we > >> >> >had got hung up, it would be all over. With even my rb, which is semi > >> >> >closed, I turn double 80's into 1600 cubic feet of gas. > >> >> > > >> >> >JJ and I have decided not to do this shit on oc anymore . Sure, we > pulled > >> >>it > >> >> >off for years on wreck and cave, and JJ did penetration filming > dives on > >> >>the > >> >> >Britannic at 400 odd feet, but then Dale Earnhardt is my age and had > >> a half > >> >> >lap to go at Daytona. No thanks, my dick is already big enough. > >> >> > > >> >> >You guys are asking for that last half lap with this kind of thing. I > >> know > >> >> >it is real adventurous, but it is also not too smart. Save your > money and > >> >> >buy a rebreather. I do not want to read about your dead ass. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >> >From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*] > >> >> >Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 9:00 PM > >> >> >To: vbtech@ci*.co* > >> >> >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > >> >> >Subject: Deep wreck in FL > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Hi All > >> >> >Just a short note to let everyone who knew about the unknown wreck > that > >> >> >Rick Atkins and myself were going to dive turned out safe with the > >> support > >> >> >of the VBtech team. The wreck which sits in nearly 500fsw was too > >> small for > >> >> >the drop, we dropped up current of the wreck which has a small > profile. A > >> >> >small object to hit at that extreme depth in strong current . We > spent 8 > >> >> >mins at 490ft looking for the wreck, we had missed it. I will give a > >> >> >complete report when I get back home. > >> >> > > >> >> >JT > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >-- > >> >> >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> >> >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >> >> > > >> >> >-- > >> >> >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> >> >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >> >> > >> >>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get > in the > >> >>water" > >> >>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more > >> >> Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/ > >> >>Email captjt@mi*.co* > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>-- > >> >>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> >>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >> >> > >> >>-- > >> >>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> >>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >> > > >> >"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get > in the > >> >water" > >> >Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more > >> > Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/ > >> >Email captjt@mi*.co* > >> > > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > >"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the > >water" > >Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more > > Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/ > >Email captjt@mi*.co* > > > > "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the water" Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/ Email captjt@mi*.co* -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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