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This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0959A.A13F3430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "electric"...."a thru-suit connection similar to a P-valve"......"Has = anyone tried this?" Yep! =20 Best sex I ever had.....alone! :-) James Dibbs Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Alex Vasauskas [mailto:surlyc@al*.ne*] Sent: 13 February 2001 4:25 PM To: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: RE: heated watersuit An electric heating pad setup is available from Patco, Inc. = www.patcoinc.com under the name Aqua Heat. They say this works with either a wetsuit or = a drysuit (which requires a thru-suit connection similar to a P-valve connection). Has anyone tried this? > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Burke [mailto:donburke56@ne*.ne*] > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 3:24 PM > To: Matthias Voss > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: Re: heated watersuit > > > Hi Matthias, > > It's good to have the list back up so I can hear from you. > > From: Matthias Voss <mat.voss@t-*.de*> > > > I do not know this suit. > > However, at the boot fair D=FCsseldorf there was a suit heated by = a > > 10amphour batterypack, where the heatgenerating fibers were maid = out of > > carbon filaments. > > That is pretty much the way this thing works. The suit looks like a > diveskin and is made of fleeced PolyPro/Lycra and nylon coated > neoprene and > has a heating element in the spine. I get the impression that it is = very > thin, which in the case of neoprene translates to very expensive. = The > battery pack is six volts and weighs about three pounds. The website = had a > capacity for it which I don't recall. > > The pack connects to the suit, has a temperature control, and is = available > with several mounting options. > How it does that without punching a hole in the drysuit or making a = seal > into a leak is a mystery to me. > > > There was also a suit who's designer claimed a capability of = chemically > > storing latent enrgy and rendering heat in the very moment the > > temperature dropped below a trigger point. You may have seen this = very > > design with cars, where the cooling system serves to heat > > natriumsomething crystals, which in turn give this energy back on > > demand. > > If you could have a material with a melting point around 90 degrees = and > enough specific heat, you could wear a vest of the stuff under > your drysuit > and go the first part of the dive on sensible heat and the rest > of the dive > on the latent heat given off as the material solidifies. I know of = no > material with a high enough specific heat to do that. > > Every once in a while I see a report of someone using a couple of = those > chemical heat packs inside a drysuit. The reason I see the report is = that > the packs supposedly got salt water on them and burned the hell out = of the > diver. > I have no idea if those packs actually do that. I'll have to > dunk one in a > bucket of seawater in the backyard one day and find out. > > The thing about this rig that got my attention was that the suits put = no > heat on the head, hands, or feet. The heating element is at the = spine. > > I _always_ feel the cold in my feet, hands, or head. > The only time my spine is the first part of me to get cold is when I = am > changing the oil in my truck in my driveway in February. :) > > Don > > > Shop online without a credit card > http://www.rocketcash.com > RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to = `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to = `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to = `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0959A.A13F3430 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2651.75"> <TITLE>RE: heated watersuit</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>"electric"...."a thru-suit connection = similar to a P-valve"......"Has anyone tried = this?"</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Yep! </FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Best sex I ever had.....alone! :-)</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>James Dibbs</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sydney, Australia</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Alex Vasauskas [<A = HREF=3D"mailto:surlyc@al*.ne*">mailto:surlyc@alaska.net</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 13 February 2001 4:25 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: techdiver@aquanaut.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: heated watersuit</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>An electric heating pad setup is available from = Patco, Inc. www.patcoinc.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>under the name Aqua Heat. They say this works = with either a wetsuit or a</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>drysuit (which requires a thru-suit connection = similar to a P-valve</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>connection). Has anyone tried this?</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> From: Don Burke [<A = HREF=3D"mailto:donburke56@ne*.ne*">mailto:donburke56@netzero.net</A>= ]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 3:24 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> To: Matthias Voss</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Subject: Re: heated watersuit</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Hi Matthias,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> It's good to have the list back up so I can = hear from you.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> From: Matthias Voss = <mat.voss@t-*.de*></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > I do not know this suit.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > However, at the boot fair D=FCsseldorf = there was a suit heated by a</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > 10amphour batterypack, where the = heatgenerating fibers were maid out of</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > carbon filaments.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> That is pretty much the way this thing = works. The suit looks like a</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> diveskin and is made of fleeced PolyPro/Lycra = and nylon coated</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> neoprene and</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> has a heating element in the spine. I get = the impression that it is very</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> thin, which in the case of neoprene translates = to very expensive. The</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> battery pack is six volts and weighs about = three pounds. The website had a</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> capacity for it which I don't recall.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> The pack connects to the suit, has a = temperature control, and is available</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> with several mounting options.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> How it does that without punching a hole in the = drysuit or making a seal</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> into a leak is a mystery to me.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > There was also a suit who's designer = claimed a capability of chemically</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > storing latent enrgy and rendering heat in = the very moment the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > temperature dropped below a trigger point. = You may have seen this very</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > design with cars, where the cooling system = serves to heat</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > natriumsomething crystals, which in turn = give this energy back on</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > demand.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> If you could have a material with a melting = point around 90 degrees and</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> enough specific heat, you could wear a vest of = the stuff under</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> your drysuit</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> and go the first part of the dive on sensible = heat and the rest</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> of the dive</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> on the latent heat given off as the material = solidifies. I know of no</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> material with a high enough specific heat to do = that.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Every once in a while I see a report of someone = using a couple of those</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> chemical heat packs inside a drysuit. The = reason I see the report is that</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> the packs supposedly got salt water on them and = burned the hell out of the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> diver.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> I have no idea if those packs actually do = that. I'll have to</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> dunk one in a</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> bucket of seawater in the backyard one day and = find out.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> The thing about this rig that got my attention = was that the suits put no</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> heat on the head, hands, or feet. The = heating element is at the spine.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> I _always_ feel the cold in my feet, hands, or = head.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> The only time my spine is the first part of me = to get cold is when I am</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> changing the oil in my truck in my driveway in = February. :)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Don</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Shop online without a credit card</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> <A HREF=3D"http://www.rocketcash.com" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.rocketcash.com</A></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to = `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to = `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to = `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to = `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.</FONT> </P> </BODY> </HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0959A.A13F3430-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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