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Pardon me, but what the fuck has this discussion to do with technical diving??? ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Greenhouse <b.greenhouse@ut*.ca*> To: Negris, James R <James.Negris@PS*.Bo*.co*> Cc: Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 8:30 PM Subject: Re: Creatine I used to know, and will look it up in my old notebooks later, but I seem to remember that Creatine has something to do with the creation of lactic acid, which would make sense since it allows increased anaerobic exercise (which creates lactic acid). It may be that when you have extra creatine in your system you can do more anaerobic activity, resulting in more lactic acid buildup, resulting in more cramps. Of course, I can't remember what happens after creatine"runs out" if you're not taking supplements. Obviously you don't stop working, so why you would get less lactic acid then I don't know...I'll have to go dig out my old notes (cellular physiology)... Hope this was some help, maybe someone with a clearer picture than I have at this time will pitch in. Ben "Negris, James R" wrote: > One caveat that should be mentioned rearding creatine is that it can cause cramping during some types of activities, primarily endurance events. I found this out the hard way during last year's biking season when I would experience sudden and extreme cramping at about mile 60 or so of 100+ mile rides. The usual culprit is insufficient hydration but I knew that wasn't the case here since I am always careful to hydrate properly. This happened about three rides in a row, all at about the same mileage, before I finally made the connection and once I went off creatine the cramps never happened again. So, now I do not use creatine during the summer biking season. There is no question that it is effective for anaerobic activities like weightlifting and I use it for that purpose during the rest of the year. I have even found that it's beneficial for short rides (<40 miles). Maybe someone else on the list can explain the physiology of creatine-induced cramping? > > James > > > ---------- > > From: George Irvine[SMTP:kirvine@sa*.ne*] > > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 4:01 AM > > To: Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com > > Subject: Fw: Creatine > > > > > Jeff, it is not the liver it is the kidneys it effects by possibly > > > contributing to kidney stones due to not drinking enough water, but then > > the > > > same can be said in regard to protein drinks. If creatine did not work for > > > you, it was not creatine. You have to step up and pet the pony with the > > good > > > stuff, like Twin Labs or EAS. The 10 dollar shit will not do jack. The 40 > > > dollar per little tiny bottle will double the reps you can do in any > > > exercise, and will give you speed bursts in sprints on the bike , swim or > > > run that make this stuff second only to steroids in effectiveness for > > > athletes in training. Every time I use the stuff I get accused of juicing. > > > > > > The best effect is that it lets you work out harder, and that obviously > > > gives you better results. > > > > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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