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From: George Irvine=20
To: Brian Hunter ; techdiver=20
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: rebreathers
I just bought a new Halcyon and have two more coming. I also have two of =
the old ones.
Let me say this first: I need rebreathers, or I would not have one any =
more than I would keep a pet alligator or a tube of the Ebola Virus.
Having said that, take a look at the rebreather industry. Halcyon is =
made by a company that has been around for long time and makes many =
excellent products, and has a huge business that is well financed and =
backed.
The rest of these guys are not so fortunate. Cis Lunar, for instance , =
has just recently thrown in the towel is not in business any more. You =
can not even get parts. There are some guys who refurb the old military =
MK15 rb's out there, but I do not know how much into it they are these =
days. There are a bunch of companies that keep TRYING to make =
rebreathers and many that TALK about rebreathers, but nothing seems to =
materialize but vaporware and bullshit. There are a whole lot of =
promises, including K2 and others , but nothing with any track record. =
There is the Buddy Inspiration made by AP Valves in England, a decent =
company, but then we'd have to talk track record and that is for them =
like pissing in the punch bowl.
=20
You may want to ask this question: what rebreathers have the best =
record and what rebreathers hold all the records, like distance in a =
cave, or longest dives, or most of both of the above.
The first question you really need to ask yourself is, "Why do I want =
this, and is that a good reason?"
If you just want a nice toy to show off on the dive boat or discuss on =
diving lists, call Jill Heinerth or Tom Mouth and give them a bid on the =
Cis Lunars they got stuck with that they can not ever get parts for or =
get repaired again. These are definitely the 12" dick of big mouthery =
and techiness on a dive boat, and I have the manual which I can Xerox up =
for you so you can talk about how the unit SHOULD work if you could get =
the parts. This could be what you are looking for.
Or, you could get the real thing, but you need to go to GUE for training =
and they and Halcyon would have to decide if your reasons for wanting =
this are good enough to get you started, and then you would have to pass =
EE training, which is another story all together. Nobody else is allowed =
to teach these or sell these anymore - Halcyon was not any longer =
willing to take that risk.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Brian Hunter=20
To: techdiver=20
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 9:39 PM
Subject: rebreathers
Could anyone give me some insight on rebreathers I'm looking at =
either a Halycon or K2. I would use it for EANx or trimix, if you have =
any more suggestions on different units I would be happy to hear from =
you.
=20
Thank You
Brian Hunter=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A=20
href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*" title=3Dtrey@ne*.co*>George =
Irvine</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:sasha@ka*.ne*"=20
title=3Dsasha@ka*.ne*>Brian Hunter</A> ; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com" =
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 21, 2001 7:41 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: rebreathers</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>I just bought a new Halcyon and have two more =
coming. I also=20
have two of the old ones.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Let me say this first: I need rebreathers, or I =
would not have=20
one any more than I would keep a pet alligator or a tube of the Ebola=20
Virus.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Having said that, take a look at the rebreather =
industry.=20
Halcyon is made by a company that has been around for long time and =
makes many=20
excellent products, and has a huge business that is well financed and=20
backed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>The rest of these guys are not so fortunate. Cis =
Lunar, for=20
instance , has just recently thrown in the towel is not in business any =
more.=20
You can not even get parts. There are some guys who refurb the =
old military=20
MK15 rb's out there, but I do not know how much into it they are these =
days.=20
There are a bunch of companies that keep TRYING to make rebreathers =
and=20
many that TALK about rebreathers, but nothing seems to materialize but =
vaporware=20
and bullshit. There are a whole lot of promises, including K2 and others =
, but=20
nothing with any track record. There is the Buddy Inspiration =
made by=20
AP Valves in England, a decent company, but then we'd have to talk track =
record=20
and that is for them like pissing in the punch bowl.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> <FONT size=3D4>You may want to ask this question: what =
rebreathers have=20
the best record and what rebreathers hold all the records, like distance =
in a=20
cave, or longest dives, or most of both of the above.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>The first question you really need to ask yourself =
is, "Why do=20
I want this, and is that a good reason?"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>If you just want a nice toy to show off on the dive =
boat or=20
discuss on diving lists, call Jill Heinerth or Tom Mouth and give them a =
bid on=20
the Cis Lunars they got stuck with that they can not ever get parts for =
or get=20
repaired again. These are definitely the 12" dick of big mouthery and =
techiness=20
on a dive boat, and I have the manual which I can Xerox up for you so =
you can=20
talk about how the unit SHOULD work if you could get the parts. This =
could be=20
what you are looking for.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Or, you could get the real thing, but you need to go =
to GUE=20
for training and they and Halcyon would have to decide if your reasons =
for=20
wanting this are good enough to get you started, and then you would have =
to pass=20
EE training, which is another story all together. Nobody else is allowed =
to=20
teach these or sell these anymore - Halcyon was not any longer willing =
to take=20
that risk.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:sasha@ka*.ne*" =
title=3Dsasha@ka*.ne*>Brian=20
Hunter</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 20, =
2001 9:39=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> rebreathers</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Could anyone =
give me=20
some insight on rebreathers I'm looking at either a Halycon or K2. I =
would use=20
it for EANx or trimix, if you have any more suggestions on different=20
units I would be happy to hear from you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
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size=3D2> &nbs=
p; =
; =
=20
Thank You</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =20
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Brian =
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