> -----Original Message----- > From: Trey [mailto:trey@ne*.co*] > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 8:28 PM > To: pina > Subject: can't snd this ? > > > P, could you send this - it just bounces back at me > . > > > I agree with you and I agree with JT Barker - > completely . > > However I think this list was down for a week and I > was out of town anyway. > > I am always ready and willing to get on here with > answers and I love to do battle with the strokes who > teach what ruins it for all of us, so bring them on. > > I am on Quest at JJ's request to answer questions > there, but generally anyone who really needd to atlk > to me comes to me directly, and this list has more > of the people who badly need a tsate of what the > real story in diving is, and I can provide that > better than anyone alive or dead. > > > From: "Don Burke" <donburke56@ne*.ne*> > Subject: Re: Techdiver or GUE Quest? (was Lawsuit) > Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 11:02:06 -0500 > > I prefer the conflict. If the system can't stand > up, it can't stand up and > should be replaced. > > It is easy to understand that Trey is probably > pretty bored with the > regurgitation of topics and more than likely wants > to move on. > > I'll be here. Dumb questions, stupid answers, and > all. > > I also can't see a new diver finding his way to a > paid group, sight unseen. > > JT has a point about the money getting into it. > Just read an equipment review in "Skin Diver" and > then look to see if the > manufacturer bought an ad. > There is a very strong correlation. > > BTW, there is a techdiver egroup which is getting > nearly no traffic. > > Don Burke > Chesapeake, Virginia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*> > > I have nothing against GUE either, but I will not > subscribe to it. Any > list > > that has a business as its backing will surely > push people to use and > > benefit the business. That just isn't me. > > At 05:26 PM 12/19/00 -0500, Steve wrote: > > >God, I hope not. Got nothing against GUE, and I > suppose a lot of the folk > > >on (formerly on?) this list would love to have a > DIR-only list, just so > > >everyone can agree and pat each other on the back > (though I would thing > > >George would start to get antsy with so much the > peace, love and > harmony). > > >But I think the constant testing of the DIR > principles, which has gone on > > >here on techdiver, as tedious as it often is, is > very useful, in > > >examining, clarifying and promogulating those > principles. > > > > > >Worse though, is that the net started out as a > place for free and open > > >exchange of information, but is gradually being > taken over by commercial > > >entities. The newsgroups and the lists are one of > the last strongholds of > > >the original net spirit. Techdiver has been, for > all its faults (and most > > >of those faults are a necessary, unavoidable > byproduct of its virtues) > the > > >prime site for discussion of techdiving issues. > Allowing this dialogue to > > >move from a free open-to-all list to a paid, > by-subscription-only one, > > >owned and controlled, and run as a commercial > proposition by a single > tech > > >agency/gear vendor, would be a backward step for > the techdiving community > > >indeed, no matter how good that agency, or pure > its motives. > > David wrote: > > > >Most of the activity has moved to the GUE Quest > list. It tone is a bit > more > > > >normal and all DIR. > > > > > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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