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From: "pina" <pina3@be*.ne*>
To: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: FW: can't send this ?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 22:23:43 -0500


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trey [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 8:28 PM
> To: pina
> Subject: can't snd this ?
>
>
> P, could you send this - it just bounces back at me
> .
>
>
>     I agree with you and I agree with JT Barker -
> completely .
>
> However I think this list was down for a week and I
> was out of town anyway.
>
> I am always ready and willing to get on here with
> answers and I love to do battle with the strokes who
> teach what ruins it for all of us, so bring them on.
>
> I am on Quest at JJ's request to answer questions
> there, but generally anyone who really needd to atlk
> to me comes to me directly, and this list has more
> of the people who badly need a tsate of what the
> real story in diving is, and I can provide that
> better than anyone alive or dead.
>
>
> From: "Don Burke" <donburke56@ne*.ne*>
> Subject: Re: Techdiver or GUE Quest? (was Lawsuit)
> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 11:02:06 -0500
>
> I prefer the conflict.  If the system can't stand
> up, it can't stand up and
> should be replaced.
>
> It is easy to understand that Trey is probably
> pretty bored with the
> regurgitation of topics and more than likely wants
> to move on.
>
> I'll be here.  Dumb questions, stupid answers, and
> all.
>
> I also can't see a new diver finding his way to a
> paid group, sight unseen.
>
> JT has a point about the money getting into it.
> Just read an equipment review in "Skin Diver" and
> then look to see if the
> manufacturer bought an ad.
> There is a very strong correlation.
>
> BTW, there is a techdiver egroup which is getting
> nearly no traffic.
>
> Don Burke
> Chesapeake, Virginia
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
> > I have nothing against GUE either, but I will not
> subscribe to it. Any
> list
> > that has a business as its backing will surely
> push people to use and
> > benefit the business. That just isn't me.
>
> At 05:26 PM 12/19/00 -0500, Steve wrote:
> > >God, I hope not. Got nothing against GUE, and I
> suppose a lot of the folk
> > >on (formerly on?) this list would love to have a
> DIR-only list, just so
> > >everyone can agree and pat each other on the back
> (though I would thing
> > >George would start to get antsy with so much the
> peace, love and
> harmony).
> > >But I think the constant testing of the DIR
> principles, which has gone on
> > >here on techdiver, as tedious as it often is,  is
> very useful, in
> > >examining, clarifying and promogulating those
> principles.
> > >
> > >Worse though, is that the net started out as a
> place for free and open
> > >exchange of information, but is gradually being
> taken over by commercial
> > >entities. The newsgroups and the lists are one of
> the last strongholds of
> > >the original net spirit. Techdiver has been, for
> all its faults (and most
> > >of those faults are a necessary, unavoidable
> byproduct of its virtues)
> the
> > >prime site for discussion of techdiving issues.
> Allowing this dialogue to
> > >move from a free open-to-all list to a paid,
> by-subscription-only one,
> > >owned and controlled,  and run as a commercial
> proposition by a single
> tech
> > >agency/gear vendor, would be a backward step for
> the techdiving community
> > >indeed, no matter how good that agency, or pure
> its motives.
>
> David wrote:
> > > >Most of the activity has moved to the GUE Quest
> list. It tone is a bit
> more
> > > >normal and all DIR.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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