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Me I'm here to LEARN not DEBATE something I'm NOT trained in. I learned
many years ago that UNLESS I was trained in a subject I was NOT even
qualified to have an opinion on that subject as I did NOT know enough
about it to have one. This applies to any TECHINACAL subject be it
computers OR tech diving OE DIR diving.
I'd say the bigest problem with THIS list (I've been on it for about 3
yrs now as MOSTLY a lurker) is WAY too many people speaking learnedly
about what they know NOTHING about. Be it tech diving from the rec.scuba
crowd OR DIR/GUE from the industry mouth peices. That never have and
never WILL be able to DO the dives DIR was developed from.
The old saying is "Those who CAN do DO. Those who CAN'T do TEACH" and
here is extreamly applicable.
Flame away I'll consider the sourse and IGNORE it. haha
L8R
Don Burke wrote:
>
> I prefer the conflict. If the system can't stand up, it can't stand up and
> should be replaced.
>
> It is easy to understand that Trey is probably pretty bored with the
> regurgitation of topics and more than likely wants to move on.
>
> I'll be here. Dumb questions, stupid answers, and all.
>
> I also can't see a new diver finding his way to a paid group, sight unseen.
>
> JT has a point about the money getting into it.
> Just read an equipment review in "Skin Diver" and then look to see if the
> manufacturer bought an ad.
> There is a very strong correlation.
>
> BTW, there is a techdiver egroup which is getting nearly no traffic.
>
> Don Burke
> Chesapeake, Virginia
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
> > I have nothing against GUE either, but I will not subscribe to it. Any
> list
> > that has a business as its backing will surely push people to use and
> > benefit the business. That just isn't me.
>
> At 05:26 PM 12/19/00 -0500, Steve wrote:
> > >God, I hope not. Got nothing against GUE, and I suppose a lot of the folk
> > >on (formerly on?) this list would love to have a DIR-only list, just so
> > >everyone can agree and pat each other on the back (though I would thing
> > >George would start to get antsy with so much the peace, love and
> harmony).
> > >But I think the constant testing of the DIR principles, which has gone on
> > >here on techdiver, as tedious as it often is, is very useful, in
> > >examining, clarifying and promogulating those principles.
> > >
> > >Worse though, is that the net started out as a place for free and open
> > >exchange of information, but is gradually being taken over by commercial
> > >entities. The newsgroups and the lists are one of the last strongholds of
> > >the original net spirit. Techdiver has been, for all its faults (and most
> > >of those faults are a necessary, unavoidable byproduct of its virtues)
> the
> > >prime site for discussion of techdiving issues. Allowing this dialogue to
> > >move from a free open-to-all list to a paid, by-subscription-only one,
> > >owned and controlled, and run as a commercial proposition by a single
> tech
> > >agency/gear vendor, would be a backward step for the techdiving community
> > >indeed, no matter how good that agency, or pure its motives.
>
> David wrote:
> > > >Most of the activity has moved to the GUE Quest list. It tone is a bit
> more
> > > >normal and all DIR.
>
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