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I prefer the conflict. If the system can't stand up, it can't stand up and should be replaced. It is easy to understand that Trey is probably pretty bored with the regurgitation of topics and more than likely wants to move on. I'll be here. Dumb questions, stupid answers, and all. I also can't see a new diver finding his way to a paid group, sight unseen. JT has a point about the money getting into it. Just read an equipment review in "Skin Diver" and then look to see if the manufacturer bought an ad. There is a very strong correlation. BTW, there is a techdiver egroup which is getting nearly no traffic. Don Burke Chesapeake, Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*> > I have nothing against GUE either, but I will not subscribe to it. Any list > that has a business as its backing will surely push people to use and > benefit the business. That just isn't me. At 05:26 PM 12/19/00 -0500, Steve wrote: > >God, I hope not. Got nothing against GUE, and I suppose a lot of the folk > >on (formerly on?) this list would love to have a DIR-only list, just so > >everyone can agree and pat each other on the back (though I would thing > >George would start to get antsy with so much the peace, love and harmony). > >But I think the constant testing of the DIR principles, which has gone on > >here on techdiver, as tedious as it often is, is very useful, in > >examining, clarifying and promogulating those principles. > > > >Worse though, is that the net started out as a place for free and open > >exchange of information, but is gradually being taken over by commercial > >entities. The newsgroups and the lists are one of the last strongholds of > >the original net spirit. Techdiver has been, for all its faults (and most > >of those faults are a necessary, unavoidable byproduct of its virtues) the > >prime site for discussion of techdiving issues. Allowing this dialogue to > >move from a free open-to-all list to a paid, by-subscription-only one, > >owned and controlled, and run as a commercial proposition by a single tech > >agency/gear vendor, would be a backward step for the techdiving community > >indeed, no matter how good that agency, or pure its motives. David wrote: > > >Most of the activity has moved to the GUE Quest list. It tone is a bit more > > >normal and all DIR. _______________________________________________ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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