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From: <AlanPelstring@ao*.co*>
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 04:02:34 EST
Subject: Re: Ice diving
To: gzambeck1@me*.ne*, AlanPelstring@ao*.co*
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com, Jsuw@ao*.co*
well greg

it seems that as usual you have your facts all messed up. you can almost see 
the whole picture, but your details are way off. so far off that you will 
never be able to get it right. this is typical of divers like you. this also 
leads to fuck ups during a dive or doing anything else. this behavior is what 
will kill people. the courts can say anything they want, it just means their 
was some confusion surrounding the deaths, not that you did nothing wrong. 

I am sure that any divers you have addressed here are just dying for the 
chance to dive with you.

Go play with yourself, deep, solo, dives on air are the rage you should try 
it.


Alan




In a message dated 10/31/00 8:35:40 AM, gzambeck1@me*.ne* writes:

>Al students that have died in training is still ZERO.
>That matter was already proven in court to be caused by the actions of
>the
>student.
>
>In your case Al the who thing sounds a bit off when your girlfriend made
>a dive
>to 300 ft.
>Then at the 20 ft stop had a problem due to the gas change.
>Sounds more like a contaminated gas source.
>I have wondered why you file your suit against the dive store that blended
>the
>gas.
>You also give a pretty lame excuse for the other student that didn't go
>after
>her.
>Wasn't it something like her couldn't clear his ears.
>Your telling me he couldn't have come up a few feet, cleared his ears and
>started back down.
>This is after clearing his ears through a dive to 300 ft.
>
>Two divers watched her bubbles coming up for two minutes.
>The instructor is wrong for not going and the student is right.
>The matter seems like two divers made a decision that if they had gone
>down.
>They wouldn't have had the gas to make it back up.
>
>As for ice dives on wrecks, there are several groups that dive through
>the ice
>on wreck at Lake Winnipesaukee and
>Lake Champlain. They bring students and run there ice diving classes. 
>Nobody
>here seems to be having a problem.
>
>Macaday lake is a popular spot in Michigan and several dive clubs get 
together
>to run the annual ice dive.
>There are four tents that are set-up, two change in (boys and girls).
>One is for people to warm up in and the other is for food being prepared.
>
>At Lake Winnipesaukee we had a heated 14 ft truck with lights, hair drier,
>coffee and cappuccino maker inside.
>Come on up Jan, it's a good time for all that attend.
>
>Found a good book Jan on ship building at Bath, Maine.
>
>The Yard by Michael S. Sanders.
>The author describes all of the working of the Bath Iron Works as a U.S.
>destroyer is built.
>ISBN 0-06-019246-1
>
>Good diving Jan.
>
>Greg


Alan Pelstring
S. Fl.
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