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From: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>
To: "Alton J. Hall, Jr." <ahall@di*.co*>,
     "Michael J. Black"
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: I'm not Beethoven
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 06:24:22 -0700
Alton,

This guy is a complete sociopath. Psychotic from the socks up. 100% Fruit
Loop. You can beat him in the face with the truth, and he still sees what he
wants to.

Every time he runs his suck, more bullshit comes out. I read his laundry
list of things he is pissed at me about, and I have no idea where 90% of it
came from. He makes it up as he goes. Including the part about me being a
dishonorably discharged Marine, and an alcoholic. See, his MO involves
posting a conjecture, half truth, or out and out lie, then if, because you
have his dumb ass buried in your kill file, you don't respond to or argue
with him (why bother!), he takes that as tacit admission of the accusation,
and runs off telling everyone all about his grandiose hypothesis.

My advice is to do with him here as was done with him on rec.scuba, and that
is to ignore him (which is why he is here). He isn't here to learn or share,
only to ruin the list and any discussions about real diving with his ego
driven "attacks" as required by his extreme social inadequacies. He is
almost sad, really.
If he wasn't *such* a punk, I would feel sorry for him.

The only good thing that comes from him, is that he provides a blinding
contrast to DIR, intellect,
decency, truth, justice and the American way. He is humping your leg because
he is a big TDI and Gilliam fan. And because GI, and all the DIR hippies
from rec.scuba, have pounded him like a piece of cheap veal.

You are, indeed, in some good company.

=;-)

Scott


----- Original Message -----
From: Alton J. Hall, Jr. <ahall@di*.co*>
To: Michael J. Black <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: I'm not Beethoven


> A attack instead of an answer. Very clever. I am honored to join the ranks
of those
> you have insulted. So how much are we going to bet?
>
> Alton
>
> "Michael J. Black" wrote:
>
> > Has there been a settlement or exchange of money?  I am guessing not.
> > And you know, Alton Hall, your reputation preceeds you.  Word is you
> > are a pretty flimsy attorney, walking a narrow fence defending blowhards
> > like Trey, an easy target should a real prosecuting attorney want you.
> > It seems your bark is much worse than your bite.  I'll be watching...
> > MJB
> >
> > --- "Alton J. Hall, Jr." <ahall@di*.co*> wrote:
> > > Put your money where your mouth is Black. I am willing to bet any
amount you
> > > wish
> > > on whether George has a judgment against Skaggs. However I will give
you a
> > > piece
> > > of advice; don't bet when you obviously don't know the answer. So how
much
> > > are you
> > > willing to wager? Let me know. Another piece of advice; before you put
your
> > > money
> > > on the line perhaps you should have someone check the Circuit Court of
the
> > > Eleventh Judicial Circuit in and for Dade County, Florida, General
> > > Jurisdiction
> > > Division, records. The docket number is 98-29116-CA-02. I do hate to
take
> > > money
> > > from the uninformed. Unless of course they are trying to teach diving.
> > >
> > > Alton Hall
> > >
> > >
> > > "Michael J. Black" wrote:
> > >
> > > > You saying you have a $150,000 judgment against Mitch Skaggs is
about
> > > > as believable as you actually getting a settlement even if it were
> > > > true.  Trey, you are FOS, pretending to be a medical expert, who has
> > > > slandered and/or libeled practically everyone in the dive industry,
> > > > cavers and non-cavers alike.  I consider myself in esteemed company,
> > > > to be in your doghouse.  MJB
> > > >
> > > > --- Trey <trey@ne*.co*> wrote:
> > > > > Sorry, Idiot, you are wrong again. Bowden is indeed a stroke,
Exley died
> > > of
> > > > > deep air, although he was a good guy and I dove with him ( but he
DIR'd
> > > when
> > > > > he dove with me ), Hal Watts is more than an idiot ( he has his
daughter
> > > > > diving deep air for "records"), Jill Hienerth is a liar ( she has
claimed
> > > to
> > > > > have set a "record" and lied about her dives at Wakulla ), Richie
is not
> > > a
> > > > > cave diver, Bret is not a cave diver, Skaggs is not a cave diver,
and I
> > > sued
> > > > > Skaggs and currently have a $150,000 judgment against him in Miami
Court
> > > -
> > > > > would you like to be next on some of the comments you have made,
asshole?
> > > > >
> > > > > I would get sued if : 1)   I were not telling the truth, and 2) my
> > > opinion
> > > > > were actionable.
> > > > >
> > > > > Got any more great examples for us?
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Michael J. Black" <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
> > > > > To: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
> > > > > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 5:15 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: I'm not Beethoven
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hard to imagine you having any friends, Trey, especially Mike
Madden
> > > > > > or anyone else who cave dives.  You have called Jim Bowden
batman,
> > > > > > Sheck Exley a stroke, Hal Watts an idiot, not to mention Jill
Heinerth,
> > > > > > Richie Pyle, Bret Gilliam, Mitch Skaggs, etc.  I am amazed you
haven't
> > > > > > had your ass sued off yet, but then maybe you have.  You still
make
> > > > > > me laugh, doc-wannabe ("cycle cell anemia"), and BTW I don't
smoke,
> > > > > > but that'd be your style to make something up.  MJB
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Trey <trey@ne*.co*> wrote:
> > > > > > > Funny, "doc" I just got back from diving with Mike Madden -
that
> > > makes
> > > > > twice
> > > > > > > this year, and I was just talking to Scott about arranging
some
> > > things
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > me there next month. You just love to run that little mouth of
yours
> > > and
> > > > > yet
> > > > > > > you just never get it right, do you? Mike and I have been
close
> > > friends
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > 10 years, moron.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let's cut to the chase, "doc": you are a pathetic little bald
headed
> > > > > pussy
> > > > > > > whose lack of self esteem mandates wearing a hat to cover up
the
> > > shiner,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > who is a neophyte recreational diver who wandered into the big
pond
> > > and
> > > > > got
> > > > > > > his pee pee slapped like an errant child at the diner table,
and now
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > little feelings are hurt and you want to get even.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Too bad, go back and learn something and see if you can make
yourself
> > > > > > > useful. Right now you are worse than useless, you are a
dangerous
> > > > > > > misinformant.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Michael J. Black [mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*]
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 4:14 PM
> > > > > > > To: Trey
> > > > > > > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: I'm not Beethoven
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (Wringing my hands) Hey Sheila,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are one rabid doc-wannabe, and excuse my laughter when I
see you
> > > > > > > stick your foot in your mouth as often as you do.  I also get
a
> > > chuckle
> > > > > > > watching you spew superlatives, calling anyone you don't like
the
> > > > > > > worst hypocrite, biggest asshole, dumbest stroke, blah, blah,
blah.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's been awhile, but I just had to watch you twist some more,
> > > Sheila.
> > > > > > > And at the same time, compliment Scott Bonis about the article
in
> > > > > > > Dive Training.  I suppose Akumal is for pussies, eh Sheila?
Don't
> > > > > > > see Steve Gerrard, Mike Madden, or any of those guys on
techdiver,
> > > > > > > but can't blame em.  Why would they wanna put up with you?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > MJB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- Trey <trey@ne*.co*> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Black, any time you want to compare scorecards, bring it on.
Yours
> > > > > starts
> > > > > > > > with ZERO - as in zero contribution to anything to do with
any
> > > aspect
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > diving ever.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you understood anything I am saying, typos not
withstanding, we
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > be having this conversation. I can spell "IDIOT" right, and
an
> > > "idiot"
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > somebody who is a doctor and fails to understand the most
basic
> > > things
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > one would expect of him, like a Doc who smokes, or one who
dives
> > > air
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > pony of 40% nitrox. Dumb Fuck also comes to mind. Did I
spell that
> > > > > right?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Black, everyone here knows the score - yours is easy to keep
track
> > > > > of -
> > > > > > > > still ZERO.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Michael J. Black [mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 8:54 PM
> > > > > > > > To: Scott Bonis
> > > > > > > > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: I'm not Beethoven
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And I don't know who his piano teacher was either.  But I
enjoyed
> > > > > > > > the article about you, Scott, in October's Dive Training
Magazine.
> > > > > > > > Noticed the "danglies" in the picture too, but maybe you
were
> > > > > > > > having a bad day.  I'll be in Cozumel in December, and
sorry, but
> > > > > > > > Akumal is not on my agenda.  See ya on techdiver.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Oh, and hi to all my buds, like Trey (that was a good post
about
> > > > > > > > red blood cell rigidity and "cycle" cell anemia, AKA sickle
cell
> > > > > > > > anemia, BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Trey, your medical knowledge
cracks
> > > > > > > > me up!).  MJB
> > > > > > > >
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