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Good luck hitting them in the pocket book. You can't get a reservation on Odyssey or the Aggressor boat within six months of the trip date. And it's difficult getting dates you might want a year in advance. They have no problem running full trips. The only way you may change their mind is to offer them more money to do your own thing. And for the record, Gilliam, Skaggs, and TDI used to run their "tech weeks" on the Aggressor boat. Does anyone know why they changed boats? Odyssey has only been there about a year. Was there an accident that we didn't hear about? Did you guys ask Thorfinn if they would "allow" trimix? They even know what deep stops are. I doubt Odyssey and Aggressor do.. Also, don't Odyssey and Aggressor use membrane systems (meaning they don't have O2)? This might mean you might not get the optimal mix anyway unless you brought O2 also. While the logistics are difficult, these boats do need to get with the program. It's certainly not impossible. They have trimix divers on the island of Kwajalein on the base. Brian Patrick --- Don Hoover <Don.Hoover@ds*.co*> wrote: > Yes, grab them by the gold, that is the whole idea here. These > operators > have to understand that we will not purchase trips like this unless > the > operator can provide the pooper gas...oops they call it air:)...and > be a > responsible participant in diving safety. > -----Original Message----- > From: trey@ne*.co* [mailto:trey@ne*.co*] > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 2:15 PM > To: Don Hoover; Mike Strong; Techdiver (E-mail) > Subject: Re: Helium > > > Don, ask this stroke if he has pot to smoke and a decent bong out > there. > What's your bet? Notice these guys are not coming right out with the > "Gillliam says" line or the "you don't need it to dive to 200 feet", > but > with a long line of baloney instead, and then the ignorance pops out > : "not > equipped to mix it", meaning "not mentally equipped to have a fucking > clue > what you are talking about and not about to bother learning". Avoid > these > idiots until they get the message. Grab them by the wallet and their > hearts > and minds will follow. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Don Hoover <Don.Hoover@ds*.co*> > To: Mike Strong <divermike@fn*.ne*>; Techdiver (E-mail) > <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 8:33 PM > Subject: RE: Helium > > > > Mike this is an excuse, if you look at the post last night about > the > > Australian source, They had no problem getting He. Odyssey has > been > > unwilling to go the extra mile from the beginning. Be sides, I was > under > > the impression this was our boat, we rented the whole ship, and was > a > > Technical dive trip. I was not looking for another pretty fish > trip. We > > should have canceled out trip with this operation and found another > source. > > > > I am still not interested in their excuses or diving with these > lame > idiots, > > > > Don > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Strong [mailto:divermike@fn*.ne*] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 12:38 PM > > To: Don.Hoover@ds*.co* > > Subject: Re: Helium > > > > > > Don--this is what they just sent me.--M > > > > >From: "Cliff Horton" <info@tr*.co*> > > >To: "Mike Strong" <divermike@fn*.ne*> > > >Subject: Re: Helium > > >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:25:30 -0400 > > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 > > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 > > > > > >Mike, > > > > > >Unfortunately that would be a problem. Many people do not > understand the > > >logistics and complexities of working in Chuuk. It is not as > simple a > > matter > > >as having things delivered. There is no delivery on the island. > Once it > > >arrives on the island someone from our crew would have to go to > collect > the > > >bottle. First they would have to go get the paperwork from the > shipping > > >company, then they would have to go to the customs office to get > clearance > > >(there would be a duty charge that would have to be paid). The > customs > > >office works on "island time", not in the comparatively efficient > manor > of > > >American government officials. After that, our crew member could > then > > return > > >to the shipping company to take delivery. Now we have to transport > this > to > > >the boat, which is out on charter and not just sitting at a dock. > In the > > >mean while our crew member who should be onboard the boat > attending to > our > > >passengers, has now spent most of the day collecting your > shipment. > > > > > >There are also other logistical complications but I didn't see the > need > to > > >go on and on about it. Because helium has not been available to > us, we > also > > >are not equipped on board to handle the mixing. > > > > > >I should also point out that unless your charter is a technical > charter, > > >there will be only two opportunities during the week to dive > wrecks that > > are > > >deeper than the recreational limit. Most of the diving in Chuuk > takes > place > > >at depths of less than 100 ft. I should also point out that when > the > deeper > > >than recreational limit dives are offered, that an alternative > site > within > > >the recreational limit is also available. If you are uncomfortable > on > deep > > >dives without helium, there will always be an option that allows > you to > > dive > > >to a shallower depth. > > > > > >I hope this information is helpful. If you have any questions do > not > > >hesitate to contact me. > > > > > >Best regards, > > > > > >Cliff Horton > > >Odyssey Adventures > > >4417 Beach Blvd., Ste. 200 > > >Jacksonville, Florida 32207 > > >phone-toll free: 800/757-5396 > > >phone: 904/346-3766 > > >fax: 904/346-0664 > > >e-mail: info@tr*.co* > > >www.TrukOdyssey.com > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Mike Strong" <divermike@fn*.ne*> > > >To: <info@tr*.co*> > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 10:22 PM > > >Subject: Helium > > > > > > > > >> Hello. I am wanting to dive over there, and we have a charter > with you > > >> all. My concern is > > >> about the depth. I am going to have some helium sent over, for > Trimix. > > >> Will this be a problem > > >> for you? > > >> > > >> Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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