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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:23:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ben Wiseley <wiseleyb@ya*.co*>
Subject: Re: server slow
To: Ryan McNabb <longrifles@ya*.co*>,
     Techdiver Mailing List

Ryan,

At least get your info right - internet paranoia is
about as smart as 80/20.

eGroups advertisements: for a nominal fee (I think
it's $5/mo for the list - not $5/member) you can use
it without ads so you won't have to stress you're
little old mind with looking at a graphic for a
millisecond.  Do you ever leave your house?  How DO
you handle all those billboards?  I'll be a big texas
billionaire and offer to pay this horrendous fee so
you're mind won't be overly taxed.

spam:  Being a member of eGroups will not increase
your spam.  Grow up people... restaurants pose more of
a threat to your privacy and personal security than
the net does. 
http://www.egroups.com/info/privacy.html.  Spammers
can just as easily riffle through the archive now and
collect email addresses as they can with eGroups
archives.

flame wars:  well - the people on techdiver should
grow up... controlling flame wars by having a server
slower than molassas isn't the solution...  What's
more irritating that the flame wars are the 100's of
redundent posts you get because 100 people reply to a
simple question but it takes 2 days for it to hit the
list.

The advantages of something like eGroups are VERY
obvious.  You can have polls, databses, file postings,
MUCH more control over how you recieve emails from the
group, and an archive that's useable, etc.  Check out
the options.

If you're going to stick with whatever TSR80, i286,
POS computer that's currently running the list then do
it for a good reason... not some lame ass, aliens are
going to eat my children, and the FBI monitors my
phone calls paranoia right out of the X-Files.  

-ben

--- Ryan McNabb <longrifles@ya*.co*> wrote:
> 
> --- "Aldo P. Solari [APS]" <aldo.solari@ho*.se*>
> wrote:
> > Dear  Aquanaut  manager  and  other interesting
> parties: the
> > last
> > message  I sent to the forum took **two days** to
> be
> > distributed.
> > The  Aquanaut server is extremely slow (I dont
> have problems
> > with
> > other  fora).  There are several free servers in
> the US which
> > are
> > much  faster  (OneList,  Egroups,  etc.).  Also, 
> I  am sure
> > many
> > universities would be willing to host such a
> forum. I you wish
> > to
> > move  your  fora  to  some  (US  based)
> university, I may ask
> > for
> > assitance to some american colleagues.
> > 
> > cheers and thanx for sharing your knowledge,
> > 
> >        aldo
> 
> This comes up from time to time, it seems.  The list
> is supposed
> to be slow, to keep flame wars to a minimum.  If you
> have a few
> hours to reconsider your remarks, you often think
> better of
> them.  Secondly, the list is for dissemination of
> tech diving
> information, not so we can chat it up in real time
> as though it
> were an IRC chat room.  Nothing going out needs to
> be read so
> badly that it won't wait a few hours.  Egroups and
> others of
> their ilk post an ad onto every mail, and the SPAM
> rate
> skyrockets.  I get enough credit card offers and
> crap like that
> as it is on my email; I don't want more due to this
> list, which
> has been wonderfully SPAM free in my experience.  
> 
> Ryan McNabb
> 
> =====
> 
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