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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>, "David Freeman" <iopi.geo@ya*.co*>
Cc: "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: OXYGEN WINDOW was Re: Decompression question was Re: 80/20 nonsense
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:35:48 -0400
Jar Head, as a dope's explanation of the oxygen
window concept for you Marines, the best gas
differential would be a vacuum relative to a partial
pressure, right? Oxygen is the next best as it
creates a similar effect in that the sum of the gas
partial pressures is unbalanced by the fact that
some of the oxygen is metabolized, more in a fit
person. The greater the difference between the
oxygen and the other gases up to the max
differential described by the metabolism (  maximum
window ) , the greater the propensity for whatever
is in the cells to come out and be displaced. For a
fit person, the widow is wider and by definition so
is his vascularity and perfusion, so he decompresses
better. These things are all tied together.

You open the widow as wide as possible subject to 1)
risk of tox or damage, 2) how long before the vaso
constrictive effect offsets the benefit, 3) how long
before the asthma like reaction sets in. You then
alternate the process back to open up the vessels
and lungs again, and repeat. All part of a good
deco.

Also it can be said that the sum of the inert gases
is the other side of the oxygen window minus the
metabolism drop of oxygen- there is no benefit to
combining inerts - they act like one gas. Oxygen can
be pushed to above its partial pressure
effectiveness as a result of this imbalance for a
"window" that then exceeds what would be the net
effect of the partial pressures of the gases, and
this is especially important in diminishing bubbles
of inert gas as the pressure of the bubble can
always be faced with a negative gradient or
"tension" on the outside due to the fact that
metabolized oxygen is creating a "vacuum" in the
total sum of the partial pressures of the gases,
leaving a consistent imbalance between bubble
pressure and surrounding tension of any given inert.
This is why the shit works so well in DCS cases
after the fact to reduce bubbles, as well as the
fact that saturation with oxygen tends to move that
gas to where it is needed even if the vessels are
blocked by damage.

Capice?

This is the dummy's explanation so I do not want to
have any of you smart ass cocksuckers coming after
me , since none of you assholes has stepped up to
the plate with anything but dogshit on here, and the
fact is that if any of you understood this concept
at a gut level like I do, you would be pulling out
your IANTD books and using them for TP.
-


>I knew there had to be a reason for telephone
psychics!
>
>Hey, can you put the "oxygen window" into words
that a Jarhead can
>understand and use for *normal* diving, as in 30
minutes or less of
>decompression? I have, at last count, 5 definitions
of the concept, as it
>applies to decompression. I have spoken to no less
than 4 experts, and they
>all have a different story, and none of them seems
to float.
>
>(fuck it, the list is stale lately)
>
>Every time I start thinking I am getting a handle
on all this, I read
>another article by "Dr. ********, MD" and I am
lost.
>
>Scott
>
>5 dangerous things to hear a Marine say:
>A private saying "I learned this in basic..."
>A Sergeant saying "Trust me sir..."
>A Lieutenant saying "According to my experience..."
>A Captain saying "Military Intelligence tells
us..."
>A Warrant Officer chuckling "Watch this shit..."
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
>To: "David Freeman" <iopi.geo@ya*.co*>
>Cc: "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 6:27 PM
>Subject: Re: Decompression question was Re: 80/20
nonsense
>
>
>> When and if one develops the need to talk to me
>> about deco, one then will find one knows my phone
>> number somehow.
>>
>> Funny how that works.
>
>
>

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