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From: <KRussellTX@ao*.co*>
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:17:31 EDT
Subject: Re: 80/20 deco
To: captjt@mi*.co*, christiang@cc*.co*.au*,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com
JT,

I appreciate your standing up for Jim Cobb.

All I can say is that I understand your comments.  And clearly your 
experience of Jim is vastly different from mine.

Karl



In a message dated 8/27/00 2:54:25 PM, captjt@mi*.co* writes:

<< Hi Karl
I think you may be a bit off here, so do not take anything I may say here 
as an attack on you.

>If you check, you may find out that Jim is merely a DIR clone, with no
>ability to think for himself.  None whatever.

I know Jim very well and you are wrong, he is no more DIR than I am, we 
both break rule number 1 on every dive, dive solo, use dacor and apollo 
scooters(not gavins) and many other DIR ways, Jim only uses the things that 
are correct for us from the DIR system and boldly defends those things as 
they are the best ways.


>His web site only proves that he can parrot back information fed to him (by
>bottle probably) from the DIR powers that be.  He is a DIR clone of the
>highest order; no mind, just copy, repeat and do from the DIR bible.   And he
>thinks that this will make him a big man.  Wha, ha, ha, ha.

Very few have information that they themselves have created, Jim is no 
different from most in that aspect, he only puts it all in one place for 
everyone to go look and they can decide for him or herself. You will also 
find many non-DIR things in his site as well.


>Christian, part of the learning process is to think and analyze for yourself.
>  This is clearly not allowed under the DIR regime.  I learn from reading 
> this
>list.  A lot actually.

Clearly you have not learned enough from starting such a losing debate.

>  But the pomposity of some of the members is
>intolerable.

I agree with you here, I do not like the way Jim post sometimes, but you 
started this with him, so take the heat from it.

>   People ask questions and then get flamed if they further
>question the garbage that is sometimes (notice I said sometimes and not often
>or even usually) spewed back for answers.  And Jim is one of the worst
>offenders.

Yes, Jim is the worst, right behind George. Most you guys out there used to 
say Jim didn't know what he is talking about, cause he wasn't doing the 
real dives, now he is doing them deeper and longer than those who said 
that. If you don't like the answers, I wouldn't ask the questions if I were 
you.

JT


>Good luck with your diving.
>
>Karl
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