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From: "David Dalton" <david_dalton@ho*.co*>
To: phi@sk*.be*, david_dalton@ho*.co*, Bakalite@ba*.co*,
     dmdalton@qu*.ne*, Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*, techdiver@aquanaut.com,
     cavers@ca*.co*
Subject: RE: "OMS Like" DIN flow regulator
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:39:39 GMT
"Phi Le" wrote:

>Dave,
>
>Assuming this is 2-digit and no decimal places, that should cover the range
>from 00 to 99 for O2.
>
>How accurate do you need your mix to be ? And do you know how accurate your
>sensor is ? :-)
>
>-Phi


Dear Phi,

A few questions and then the answers you asked for:

If I misunderstood your tone/intent my appologies but

Did you have a point you were trying to make?
Do you think the Handi is a suitable unit for all O2 analyzing tasks?
If not all, which ones do you think it is good for?
Do you use one? Why did you decide on it? How has it worked out for you?

Your questions seem to want to start an argument as opposed to seeking 
knowledge. 2 minutes on their web site would have told you the acuracy of 
the Handi & the MAX 250-E.


The following are the reasons I chose not to use a Handi O2 analyzer:

1 ) In-my-never-to-be-humble-opinion 2 digit display is fine for 
recreational nitrox. For a low O2% trimix it might not be. As I am just 
starting to mix I would say others (George, JJ, Jess, Scott) on these list 
could address the usefulness of this unit in those applications far better 
than I, and I defer to them.

2) A 2 digit display could introduce an additional error of as much as 1% 
(11.5%-12.5% displayed as 12%, you wanted 11.5%, you tested and got 12% so 
you think you are close but you really got 12.5% so you are off by 1.0% 
rather than 0.5%).

3) The unit itself is accurate +/- 3% full scale over operational 
temperature range (as listed on their site)

4) The MAX 250 E is accurate +/- 2% of full scale (as listed on thier site)

5) Combining 2 & 3 above I would deduce that you are looking at a unit to 
unit accuracy level of 2% vs 4%.

6) The Handi cost about $230 with the fittings that started this thread.

7) I just built my own and it cost $136.50 including the sensor + fittings - 
Oh, I almost forgot I bought my computer geek a Mountain Dew @ $1.04 to 
modify the panel meter for me - at 52 the eyes don't like close work and the 
hands are no longer suitable for conducting brain surgery.

8) In 2 to 4 years when my sensor "cashes in it's chips" it will cost me $65 
for a new one instead of $200 for a new Handi-dandy (and I hate throwing 
away the "car just because it needs new sparkplugs").

9) If I was as cheap as MOST divers, I could have just used my Radio Shack 
Digital Multi Meter (which I bought for $39.95 a number of years ago) and a 
$5 calculator in concert with the MAX 250. That way my expenditures would 
have only been about $95 for the MAX 250 and fittings or $65 if I skipped 
the fittings.

Please excuse any errors. I am new to diving, I didn't start until 1962 :-).

Dave Dalton



>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Dalton [mailto:david_dalton@ho*.co*]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 5:52 PM
>To: Bakalite@ba*.co*; dmdalton@qu*.ne*; Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*;
>techdiver@aquanaut.com; cavers@ca*.co*
>Subject: Re: "OMS Like" DIN flow regulator
>
>
>Paul,
>
>I guess I was unclear in what I posted. I wouldn't recommend the Handi
>analyzer, since it's use is limited with only a 2 digit display, but their
>BC adapter and barbed adapter will work with their medical & industrial
>sensors such as the MAX 250E.
>
>Dave
>

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