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From: <IHOPPOET@ao*.co*>
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:11:01 EDT
Subject: Re: backup reg - why, was and still is logic
To: trey@ne*.co*
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
In a message dated 8/16/00 4:52:07 AM Central Daylight Time, trey@ne*.co* 
writes:

<< criticizing me from your
 platform of resentment. >>

First off, don't flatter yourself, I don't resent you, yes you have angered 
me with some of your responses, as you responded in a personal insulting 
manner rather to the questions at hand, but I do not resent you or what you 
know. I recognize that yes you know more than I, about they type of diving 
you do, and believe it or not I have learned from you. However you really 
should be less of an asshole, a lot of what you say can help people, but only 
if your willing to teach it. What you do is not teaching. 

<<The reasons (S) that the backup reg is attached
around the neck start with the fact that this is
your backup and MUST be where it is supposed to be
without question. It can not be allowed to fall
loose or get blown back in a current or on a
scooter.>>

As far as this goes, yes you have logic in what your saying, but I have to 
question the risk benefit of it. Is the risk of it falling out of the loop 
and your dyeing as a result, equal to or greater to the risk you might cause 
your buddy, as he has to wait for you to cut the bungee? In this risk, you 
must assume he has panicked, sense that's the hole point of giving away your 
primary. Next, from what I understand, JJ, the DIR second in command uses a 
loop, so I guess he to is a stroke. 

>> I realize that
you want to find fault with everything I do, but you
go get my experience and knowledge base and then
come on back and give it a try.>>

I don't want to find fault in anything anyone does, but if I see something I 
do not agree with, I will point it out. No, I do not have the same experience 
and knowledge you have, but you do know have the same knowledge and 
experience that I have. I have never dove a cave. I am not a deep diver, and 
I have yet to dive mixes. However, if you think the type of diving I do is 
for pussies, you are welcome to come to Oklahoma, I will toss a quarter into 
one of our many black water lakes, rivers, pounds, or sewage systems, and 
your welcome to go get it for me. Hell you can keep it if you can find it. 

There is a saying one of my martial arts instructors used often, "practice 
does not make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect."

I am sure when you pick this email apart you will find countless reasons to 
insult me, call me asshole, wimp, pussy stroke what have you, I do not care, 
go to town. All I ask, is you show us your risk benefit research on the loop 
Vs. permanently attaching the bungee to your second stage. Many people on 
this list use the loop, as I said above from what I understand so does JJ. I 
am asking you to show us why you are more right on this issue, than me, JJ, 
and the rest of us? If you show us the stats, and they agree with what you 
say, I will gladly admit that permanently attaching the bungee is better. Now 
does that sound like resentment to you?

One last thing Trey, you can get as sick of me as you want, I'm not going 
anywhere.

Thank You
Jason Miller

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