Jim, the only thing I would do differently up there
is use  a faster boat. That 65 foot Hatteras docked
next to you will run 32 knots all day long in any
sea - that is who I would charter to dive out there.
Even that Buddy Davis sitting there will run 30
knots. Those guys are expert seamen and have the
finest equipment on those boats, and they are
maintained perfectly. Lots of these owners let the
crews charter the boats to make extra money, keep
them sharp and keep the boat running perfectly and
for other tax angles .

I chartered a 60 foot Garlington with twin 16
cylinder Mercedes engines it it that ran 35 knots
and he only charged me 1400 per day including fuel.
Split that among four or six divers and you can dive
in safety and comfort with first class equipment and
fast run times. Notice that those two boats next to
us ( I went and talked to them ) were fishing the
100 fathom curve 85 miles off shore while we were
only 60, and they had a total of 5 hours roundtrip
to our 12 hours.

On the Garlington, I was drift diving at 300 feet in
the middle of nowhere and those guys never got off
of me for one second. They can find anything and
they stay focused. They never fuck up, and when the
diving is over, you go inside in the a/c and watch
tv without spilling your cofee running wide open in
any sea.


From: pina <pina3@be*.ne*>
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>; Capt JT
<captjt@mi*.co*>; Trey <trey@ne*.co*>;
techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Saturday, August 12, 2000 3:11 AM
Subject: RE: vb tech diver report


>
>Sea sickness is just something I can't really
shake, but I still want to
>dive so it doesn't matter, and I am pretty used to
the whole episode by now.
>And actually, it is easiest when people (except T,
of course) mostly just
>leave me alone and not try to help, because they
can't really anyway, and a
>few comments here and there to lighten the mood may
not amuse me at the time
>to the point of laughter, but at least they
distract my attention :-)
>
>But, if anyone had broken out a cigar or a can of
dog food, you can bet it
>wouldn't have been the edge of the boat I was
puking over with my doubles
>on.  For that matter, if I was getting screwed with
I likely would have just
>eaten more and aimed at the offender for my
revenge.
>
>The whole way out there I was saying "I'll never do
this shit again", but in
>retrospect I definitely would.  I will just
experiment with new options next
>time (maybe the band instead of the Bonine, and I
keep forgetting to eat
>some Ginger).
>
>That was not the sickest I have ever been, and not
the last time I will be
>sick, and I don't care either.  I knew I would get
sick, so fucking what?
>and?  at least I was neat about it (I have had lots
of practice, hehe :-)
>
>Also, we didn't get in the water sooner because I
was not moving very fast
>topside.  I don't mind puking off the boat, but I
really dislike puking in
>my regulator and had no interest in floating
amongst my breakfast.
>
>peace.
>--pina
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*]
>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 9:46 PM
>> To: Tech Diver
>> Subject: Re: vb tech diver report
>>
>>
>> Hey, George, vis was 40' with your light is
turned *on*, pointless around
>> here to call it with the light off. I also have
to apologize for
>> whoever is
>> was that ran the wreck reel, if I knew who that
was I would have
>> given them
>> a ration of shit. Running a reel that day was
ridiculous. And the water is
>> not filthy, that shit in the water's called
plankton. We love it, it's a
>> great snack while you are decoing.
>>
>> Enjoyed diving with you guys, BTW we give
*anybody* who has
>> achieved a nice
>> pastel pale green color a hard time, ask Neal.
Actually we were
>> being quite
>> nice, nobody broke out a cigar or a can of dog
food.
>>
>>   Jim
>>  ------------------------------------------------
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>>
>> >>
>> >> JT, we dove when it was our turn. We dive as
teams
>> >> as a matter of practice, unlike the New
England tough
>> >> guys. Pina and I swam together , JJ followed
us with
>> >> Kane's scooter. Pina found a skull, which we
left
>> >> alone - we do not strip the wreck , we leave
stuff for
>> >> others to see.
>> >>
>> >> I use a compass ( I am fairly sure the NE
wreck
>> >> divers could be taught to use these with a few
years
>> >> of schooling ), and it has N,S,E, and even
West on it,
>> >> and a little needle which tends to point to
the North,
>> >> and having not only been on boats for my
entire life
>> >> my father was one of the guys who started
Hatteras
>> >> Yacht Company which I used to deliver boats
for as a
>> >> teenager up and down the east coast ), and
having
>> >> worked in boat factories building  boats, run
and
>> >> raced all kind of boats all over, been in the
Navy
>> >> during the Viet Nam War, and living boats as
my family
>> >> still owns yards all over this country,I have
>> >> discovered that boats and ships have a Bow , a
Stern,
>> >> a Port side and a Starboard side, and that
includes
>> >> the skeleton of ships sunk during WWII like
the
>> >> Mexicana that you took us on.
>> >>
>> >> When I can't find an anchor line, can't find
my
>> >> entry point, can't get back to the surface to
find the
>> >> dive boat, can't find my way around a boat or
a ship,
>> >> I'll suck your dick. The problem is that water
up
>> >> there is filthy, and what you guys call 40
feet of vis
>> >> is more like 12 feet, so the inability to
navigate is
>> >> a gig problem for the NE crowd. I am used to
no clue
>> >> navigation in caves and have yet to get lost.
Ships
>> >> are easy, but nothing is easy if you do it the
NE way.
>> >> That still is not a problem, as the bow stern
etc.
>> >> don't change unless one is diving air.
>> >>
>> >> I can not believe that the NE crowd, like
>> >> Christina, not only do not get the bottle
marking
>> >> thing, they do not use compasses, none of them
know
>> >> what the word "buddy" means, and the NE crowd
comes
>> >> rigged for a clusterfuck , which is what they
are used
>> >> to dealing with in NE.
>> >>
>> >> JJ, Pina and I dive together for a reason - it
>> >> is called Rule Number One.  I'll will admit
that when
>> >> I am 60 miles off shore , I will do it my way
or not
>> >> at all, and at 48 I have come back from
everything and
>> >> things that you do not want to know about in
your
>> >> worst nightmares. When I start listening to NE
wreck
>> >> divers, other than for amusement like a Jerky
Boys
>> >> tape, hand me the gun with all six chambers
full - a
>> >> better bet.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
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