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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:03:58 -0400
To: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
Subject: Re: re vb tech reprot
Cc: "List - Technical Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>

>     JT - "NE" = New England - you do not need to
>answer for these morons, and I could care less what
>they do or think.

To point out the facts, this is how I see it for me. I am not from New 
England nor am I likely to ever be. Just as you I could really care less 
what they think or what you think for that matter. I do not answer for 
them, I answer for what I was, still am , and going to be= DIVER. They do 
not have a tee shirt claiming them to be the best, if they had one it would 
read not DIR, but DDI, that stands for "Done Did It". Just as you said once 
" I will dive with Billy Deans no matter what he is wearing", I will dive 
with them. My choice of gear and rigging reflects my way of thinking for 
diving, which is just like you. My hope is not to change all of them, but 
to influence the new diver who would copy them, if I were not there to show 
them another "better" way. Along the way I hope see a change in some of the 
oldtimers is my best hope.


>      I am not a dive instructor, I am not in the dive
>business, it is not my job to train everyone, and I
>sure as hell will not argue the obvious with anyone,
>and the fact is I have more information, skill,
>knowledge , experience, ability and a track record to
>go with it than any one hundred other people on here
>and those who want access to that can get it, those
>who do not can leave it.

So what your saying is I'm the biggest , badest, bully on the list, either 
be in my gang or I'll beat your ass.


>     I do not care, not my fuckng job, JT, sorry. You
>go play patty cake with them. Do it fast before they
>all kill themselves up there with their mindless
>bullshit. I say you can not save them, but we can
>offer the new ones the real deal.

Its not my job either, but like everyone else here I agree the new diver is 
the one to go after.


>      By the way, you guys all get so gleeful about
>Pina getting seasick for some reason. I'd like to see
>her take a few of you for some of the cave dives she
>does and watch you shit in your pants. It took her
>about five minutes to learn what the rest of you still
>want to argue about .

I have nothing against Pina, I predicted she would get sick and she did, no 
brag just fact. She will get her chance to show me up in a cave, I will let 
JJ train me if he is up for the task, I will get our whole group to come 
down, the only thing you need to worry about is if I like cave diving or not.


>    I've got news for all of you guys - light years
>behind is the best description I can think of to
>define the difference between what we have developed
>and learned in our extreme cave diving vs NE wreck
>diving. Light fucking years.

Big difference in cave diving and wreck diving, before you can address the 
difference you need to understand a wreckdiver. Just like when JJ gave his 
talk up here, he spent to long on the cave diving part and the group was 
loosing interest, when he went to the "Britannic" tape everyone got into 
it, wrecks interest wreck divers, not cave diving. JJ spent like 20 minutes 
on the Britannic and 2 hrs on caving, it should have been the other way 
around. You want to get NE wreckdivers interest, talk about wrecks and how 
your system will help them to do what they love best. I have already 
figured out most of this myself, but you do not want to debate me on that.


>    I am sick of listening to the bullshit m, and that
>is what it is bullshit. You can't teach a pig to sing,
>JT, it doesn't work and it annoys the pig. They do not
>want to hear it from you , me JJ or anyone else no
>matter how you tell it to them.

Don't tell them, show them.


>    Let's concentrate on the living and let the dead
>and dying finish themselves off. They are doing a
>great job - three this week : Mafatone with his
>nonsense, a deep air waste in the St Lawrence, and a
>dumb fuck solo diving on a rebreather in California.
>The only reason the body count in NE this year is so
>low is weather.

Everyone living will die, be honest and true to God, Mafatone was not 
honest to himself, blinded by those who defended him and his own ego, even 
to the day he died on this list.


>    Say "hi" to Danny for me , I'll get to his gear
>pictures later. I have to regain my composure after
>seeing the Slobwinders on his pony bottles - too
>funny - but you keep working on his stupid ass, JT.

I agree, the Slobwinder is bullshit.





"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the 
water"
Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
  Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
Email     captjt@mi*.co*


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