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Subject: detail on first ac
From: "Christopher A. Brown" <chbrown@fr*.sc*.fs*.ed*>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 15:19:09 -0500 (EST)
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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 13:39:56 +0100
From: Frederic Badier <badier@cl*.do*.sl*.co*>
To: chbrown@fr*.sc*.fs*.ed*
Subject: detail on first accident.



Chris,

More detail about the first accident described. If you think it is really
worthwhile for other divers, pass it to the list.

The flow in the cave was normal, I have no figure to give you but it was
not flood conditions, visibility was low as usual in such a cave where a
lot settled clay is present.
Guide lines used in France are 3mm diameter propylene line when the current
is not very strong and  could be a speleological rope or even a gained
stainless steel cable. All cave divers (I hope all!) are equipped with a
cuting pliers which allow to cut with one hand (not possible with a knife).

The line is tied off along the cave every 50 meters if the cave is large
and rectiligne. If the cave is narrow and winding, the line is tied off
every 10 meters  or every direction changes. Line is generally tied off
with a strong rubber around a rock or tied off to the rock directly. In the
portion where the diver got entangled 20 meters separated the two tied off
points, it was a correct equipment for this cave.
The cave is narrow which means that you cannot dive side by side on it is
limit that you need to progress by pushing your cylinders. Difficult to say
if the line was slck or not as it has been cutted, standard practice is for
sure to minimize slack line.

Line entanglement is something where we are used too and we have some
technics for solo desentanglement which need some practice and experience.
The diver, involved in this accident, was quite news and had only logged
few cave dives as a background (around five). The cave level was not in
accordance with her level, it is a fact. Assistance was not possible due to
access, poor visibility and lack of experience of the other divers, the
only really experienced diver was the last one to exit and arrived too late
as the line was already cutted, also when this happened the visibility was
zero (which means in France that the only way to read a pressure gauge is
to put on your mask and put a light on the other glass. I am sure divers in
UK knows well this kind of situation...)

The diver went into a panic mode,the body was found with air in the cylinde=
rs.
Self control in cave diving is something which need to be developped with
years of experience before attacking difficult cave.

I hope this will answer to your questions.

Safe dives in Florida, i hope the water is still clear and warm.

Frederic

>When I read the accident report, I wondered about several aspects that
>might be worth examining in detail, to help us understand more about the
>problems the divers encountered: What was the flow? What kind of
>guideline is used in France and how is it tied off along the cave ? What
>was the configuration of the cave where the line entanglement happened?
>
> Christopher A. Brown

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Frederic BADIER
Dowell Schlumberger
Fluid Monitoring Equipment Section Manager
Schlumberger Riboud Product Centre
26 rue de la cav=E9e (BP 202); 92142 Clamart Cedex, France

Tel   :  (33) 1 45 37 20 00  Switchboard
Tel   :  (33) 1 45 37 20 41  Direct Line
Fax   :  (33) 1 45 37 25 13
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