Can anybody make any sense out of this guy's abuse of the English language?
What did he say?

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: gzambeck1 [mailto:gzambeck1@me*.ne*]
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 1:34 AM
To: Al Marvelli; Scott McWilliam
Cc: AlanPelstring@ao*.co*; cavers@ca*.co*; TECHDIVER@aquanaut.com;
trey@ne*.co*
Subject: Re: Scooters


Al I found the comments interesting, I can tell how much frustration that is
by the
amount of noise.
Since your a lawyer, and an ex sergeant.
I once ask a Nam vet did they ever worry about dying.
His response was " NO when your dead it's all over, you worry about living
with an
injury ".

So multiple "sports injuries" are acceptable even if it leads to hip bone
and joint
replacement at an early age?

I have one friend who has had this done and, and his diving became much more
conservative.

As for my students you haven't followed the other thread very well.
Most are instructors or divers diving air to 150 to 220 ft.
They don't think much of WKPP or George.
To quote the last one "shit happens I know that divers die."
"If you don't want to get hurt, don't get into the water".

Mike Graczyk who was the store manager of Richard's store.
Brought two more students with him to take trimix classes with him.

I have another instructor in a class right now who knows about Richard, and
doesn't
care.
I brought the subject up before he signed up for the class and he doesn't
care.
He has been diving air to 170 ft in the St. Lawrence River for years.
He knows that statically if you dive long enough, you may become injured or
die.
They just look at their own track record and have decided that they are in
charge of
their destiny.

Most of them won't take the time to tell you people.
They read these news groups and can see there is no discussion going on.

They sit there and read what you people write and can see the mistakes.
George's
I'm a 60 yr. old, big time cave diver from Detroit and a TDI Instructor.
They can see all of his mistakes.
I'm not 60 and I don't look it.
If George is from Orlando, I'm from Detroit.
Then he and Bill spent two weeks telling everyone I'm a TDI instructor.
They call me and tell me about the latest dumb thin that you people just
said on the
net.

Bill Bott
I certified Richard after he was in the box, after running off to TN.
He then counteracted himself in the next statement by saying the Richard was
certified
as a TDI trimix diver in the fall of 97.
Richard died in the summer of 98.
Bill then screwed up by bring up the Deep Air plate.
If Richard could dive to 260 ft on AIR and died while diving on Trimix with
an END of
135 ft.
Bill just presented a case for diving on deep air as being safer.
Especially since Richard had more access to Dramamine on the Gunilda then on
the
Doria.

Then Bill really fell on his face with his body count of 5 or 6.
He was sure of Richard as a TDI trimix diver but could remember the name of
a Lake
Wayzee diver.
That went over really good since they know that I'm not a TDI Instructor.

Scott McWilliams is another interesting fellow.
We have a picture of all of the members who were at the dinner table in
Rossport after
the Gunilda dive.
Two members are missing.
We also have a video of Richard being moved from the boat to the truck that
Charlie
drove to Thunder Bay.
There are two other dives voices on the tape and none are slurred from
drinking all
night as Scott states.
There are no towns people in the video, so how did Richard's moaning wake up
half the
towns people.
His voice in not even on the tape.

Al as a lawyer for this group, you must teach them to keep there story
straight.

Have a nice night Al

I'll check back in a few days

greg






Al Marvelli wrote:

> I wonder whats easier to live with, the knowledge your instructor got
bent, or the
> knowledge that your instructor killed a student.
>
> Al Marvelli
>
> gzambeck1 wrote:
>
> > Tyler Moon - 8 time winner of the I want to get bent for George award.
> > Tell him not boast so much to his students about George not knowing how
far to
> > push the tables.  So he get in young guys and they get bent proving the
daily
> > guess work of George's deco planning.
> >
> > Sounds great when you instructor tells you that he go bent.
> > Loaded his gear and drove himself to the chamber with an O2 reg. in his
mouth.
> >
> > Have a nice day Allen
> >
> > AlanPelstring@ao*.co* wrote:
> >
> > > In a message dated 8/8/00 10:42:30 PM, gzambeck1@me*.ne* writes:
> > >
> > > >Ok Alan what county was the suit filed in?
> > > >I would like to read the complaint and the judges reason for
dismissing
> > > >it?
> > > >
> > > >All I have is your view point, theirs always two side to the story.
> > > >
> > > >Greg Z.
> > >
> > > well well well
> > > zambo
> > >
> > > Glad to see you are reading the posts I send out. Now, it seems to me
that
> > > you have failed to answer any, even one, questions that have been put
to you.
> > >
> > > Answer some of my earlier questions and I will consider yours attempts
at
> > > changing the subject.
> > >
> > > your failure to answer the questions leads me to believe the
statements made
> > > against you are true. going on this info I now believe
> > >
> > > You did cause through ineptitude the death of one of your students.
> > >
> > > this is my opinion based on the fact you have not responded to any of
the
> > > questions put to you
> > >
> > > You are quick to try and spread lies, change the subject, or get
someone else
> > > in the light. But it is not working, your considered a stupid lying
fool, who
> > > allowed a student to die while in training.
> > >
> > > in addition the the earlier questions, you know - concerning your
students
> > > death, I now have a new one - what was the outcome of the court action
> > > against you?
> > >
> > > now answer the questions puke
> > >
> > > Alan Pelstring
> > > S. Fl.
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