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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, "Bill Bott" <aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*>
Subject: Re: Why We Still Have A Big Problem In Tec Diving
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:25:23 -0400
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  Bill, this is sad but real - Gilliam continues to have his extremely =
negative influence on diving.  The guy just will not let up with the =
stupidity.

  What we all need to do is find operators who will DIR and avoid the =
rest and point them out. Sooner or later the idiots , and this Odyssey =
clown is obviously severely ignorant , will be at least embarrassed into =
doing things the way they should be done.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Bill Bott <aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*>
    To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>; techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
    Date: Thursday, July 27, 2000 3:14 PM
    Subject: Re: Why We Still Have A Big Problem In Tec Diving
   =20
   =20
    G,
   =20
    Is this a joke or is it for real??  It is almost to stupid to be for =
real.
   =20
    At 05:54 AM 7/27/00 , Trey wrote:
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        > > > >From: <mailto:Odyssey@ma*.fm*>
        >
        > > > >Subject: Helium
        >  > >
        > > > >     Thank you for your interest in the
        > "Odyssey".
        > > > > Currently we do not use trimix on the
        "Odyssey"
        > and we have no plans to
        > > > > use it or allow it in the future. I spoke
        about
        > this subject with Mr.
        > > > > Bret Gilliam, President of Technical Divers
        > International, when he was
        > > > > here diving with us a few months ago. Without
        > discussing my thoughts
        > >with
        > > > > him first, I asked him his opinion of whether
        he
        > though we should have
        > > > > helium available for trimix. His answer
        followed
        > my thoughts exactly.
        > > > >
        > > > >      Mainly, the maximum depths here in Truk
        do
        > not warrant the use of
        > > > > trimix. There are no dive sites that there is
        a
        > reason to go over 200'.
        > > > > Most of the deep wrecks are 205' in the sand.
        > Even if you go to this
        > > > > depth, there is so little to see there that
        you
        > certainly won't be there
        > > > > for any length of time. The max depth on the
        > deep sites would be around
        > > > > 190' and the majority of the time would be
        > around 170'-180' and
        > > > > shallower. The narcosis level at these depths
        > should be acceptible for
        > > > > experienced technical divers. The maximum PO2
        > level of air at these
        > > > > depths is also acceptible at 1.5 on air. There
        > are no currents to fight,
        > > > > the water is warm and the visibility is good,
        > therefore, stress and work
        > > > > levels should be low for experienced divers.
        >
        >
        >
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>  <STRONG>Bill, this is sad
but =
real -=20
Gilliam continues to have his extremely negative influence on =
diving.  The=20
guy just will not let up with the stupidity.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>  What we all need to do is find =
operators who=20
will DIR and avoid the rest and point them out. Sooner or later the =
idiots , and=20
this Odyssey clown is obviously severely ignorant , will be at least =
embarrassed=20
into doing things the way they should be done.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
    </B>Bill Bott <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*">aquadart@ix.netcom.com</A>><BR>=
<B>To:=20
    </B>Trey <<A =
href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*">trey@netdor.com</A>>;=20
    techdiver <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>=
<B>Date:=20
    </B>Thursday, July 27, 2000 3:14 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Why
We =
Still Have=20
    A Big Problem In Tec
Diving<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>G,<BR><BR>Is this a =
joke or=20
    is it for real??  It is <U>almost</U> to stupid to be for=20
    real.<BR><BR>At 05:54 AM 7/27/00 , Trey wrote:<BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE cite type =3D cite>> > > >From: <<A=20
        href=3D"mailto:Odyssey@ma*.fm*" eudora =3D=20
        autourl>mailto:Odyssey@ma*.fm*</A>><BR>><BR>> >
> =

        >Subject: Helium<BR>>  > ><BR>> > >=20
        >     Thank you for your interest in =
the<BR>>=20
        "Odyssey".<BR>> > > > Currently we do not =
use=20
        trimix on the<BR>"Odyssey"<BR>> and we have no =
plans=20
        to<BR>> > > > use it or allow it in the future. I=20
        spoke<BR>about<BR>> this subject with Mr.<BR>> > >
=
> Bret=20
        Gilliam, President of Technical Divers<BR>> International, =
when he=20
        was<BR>> > > > here diving with us a few months ago. =

        Without<BR>> discussing my thoughts<BR>>
>with<BR>> =
>=20
        > > him first, I asked him his opinion of =
whether<BR>he<BR>>=20
        though we should have<BR>> > > > helium available =
for=20
        trimix. His answer<BR>followed<BR>> my thoughts =
exactly.<BR>> >=20
        > ><BR>> > > >      =
Mainly,=20
        the maximum depths here in Truk<BR>do<BR>> not warrant the =
use=20
        of<BR>> > > > trimix. There are no dive sites that =
there=20
        is<BR>a<BR>> reason to go over 200'.<BR>> > > >
=
Most of=20
        the deep wrecks are 205' in the sand.<BR>> Even if you go to=20
        this<BR>> > > > depth, there is so little to see =
there=20
        that<BR>you<BR>> certainly won't be there<BR>> > >
=
> for=20
        any length of time. The max depth on the<BR>> deep sites =
would be=20
        around<BR>> > > > 190' and the majority of the time =
would=20
        be<BR>> around 170'-180' and<BR>> > > > =
shallower. The=20
        narcosis level at these depths<BR>> should be acceptible =
for<BR>>=20
        > > > experienced technical divers. The maximum =
PO2<BR>>=20
        level of air at these<BR>> > > > depths is also =
acceptible=20
        at 1.5 on air. There<BR>> are no currents to fight,<BR>> =
> >=20
        > the water is warm and the visibility is good,<BR>> =
therefore,=20
        stress and work<BR>> > > > levels should be low for=20
        experienced
divers.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR><BR>--<BR>Send =
mail for=20
        the `techdiver' mailing list to =
`techdiver@aquanaut.com'.<BR>Send=20
        subscribe/unsubscribe requests to =
`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.=20
    </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Bill (aquadart) Bott
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