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From: "Thomas Tukker" <thomas@ha*.ne*>
To: "Michael J. Black" <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>,
     "Hans Petter Roverud"
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: DIR talk vs DIR diving
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:45:02 -0400
Forget about the diving, stick to boating.

THOMAS

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael J. Black [mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 1:07 PM
> To: Hans Petter Roverud
> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: DIR talk vs DIR diving
>
>
> Hans,
>
> Sherwood Maximus or Brute regulators work well in icy cold water.
> I prefer the Dacor Extreme.  Scubapro regs (all of them) are more
> prone to free-flow in icy cold, so much so that Mike Zee in Whitefish
> Point won't even let you on his boat with one.
>
> As for better systems, mine works well and is quite simple:  no dives
> below 220 feet, using a large primary, a 30cf (or 40cf) pony, and
> 40cf sling bottle(s) if needed.  No doubles, and no dives that require
> more than 45 minutes of deco (too boring with nothing to look at but
> your buddy).  A fine selection of wrecks to look at in the Great Lakes
> with this system.  Plus I dive from my own boat, and the captain is
> always right.  Boating is as much of a hobby to me as diving, just
> lots more expensive.
>
> MJB
>
> --- Hans Petter Roverud <proverud@on*.no*> wrote:
> > At 07:59 AM 7/24/00 -0700, Michael J. Black wrote:
> > While we're on the subject of DIR, here are a few more of my "esteemed"
> > objections:  No computer (HELLO??!!)
> >
> > No computer for deep diving with helium and gas switches. Today some
> > computers are available that handle helium but since you need a
> strict plan
> > for gas management as well as deco the perceived freedom of
> computers don't
> > apply several hundred feet down. You need a written backup plan
> anyway. I
> > use a computer for recreational nitrox diving but not for trimix.
> >
> > Scubapro jet fins only (the cult
> > leader has spoken)
> >
> > There are several good fins and innumerous bad ones. Most rec
> fins are too
> > soft. The Jetfin, the Turtle fin and some rubber / plastic combos are
> > suitable.
> >
> > Weight belt UNDER the BC strap (did I really hear
> > that right, DIR disciple?)
> >
> > By all means, if there's anything you don't want in technical
> diving it's
> > losing a weight belt. Rec divers ditch their belts and surface when the
> > going gets tough but that's not a viable option with a substantial deco
> > obligation. That's why most technical divers gravitate towards
> > non-ditchable weights on the backplate.
> >
> > Only one buckle for the whole rig (you guys
> > must practice taking your rig off, lots of practice)
> >
> > Yes, it took me some tweaking and practice to get the shoulder straps
> > right. The key is to keep them fairly loose and tighten up the
> rig with the
> > crotch strap. More buckles mean more clutter and once you get
> the lengths
> > right one is just fine.
> >
> > DUI drysuit (guess
> > I'll just throw away my Vikings)
> >
> > I use an Aquion shell suit and have used Vikings in the past. DUI makes
> > nice suits too. The main point is to avoid uncompressed
> neoprene (buoyancy
> > swing) and get one that fits you.
> >
> > Scubapro regulators (do you turds
> > know we call these Scubaflows in cold water, and I mean icy cold).
> >
> > Scubapro as well as most other regs have freezing problems in
> icy water. I
> > use Apeks regs that are less prone to freezing, but even they
> are not above
> > the laws of physics. What regs do you prefer for diving in the Lakes?
> >
> > Want a better system?  Start over, unless cave diving is your
> only diving.
> >
> > OK, my diving is deep ocean diving, mostly wrecks. It's nitrox
> to 100' -
> > 130' and trimix beyond this. What would you suggest? As it is
> now I bring
> > what I need and try to place each item according to DIR
> protocol. What I
> > don't need, as a huge cannister light for a shallow daytime dive, stays
> > topside. Where would you see room for improvement? Please
> describe the best
> > set-up for the diving I do based on what you find best fit for
> wreck diving
> > in the Great Lakes.
> >
> > Bye now, and don't forget to take your medication (ibuprofen, aspirin,
> > steroids, plus all those anti-depressants so you can deal with being
> > uninvited to tech-diving expos).
> >
> > Nah, but it's time for my vitamin E. Thanks for the reminder! :-)
> >
> > Hans
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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