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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:07:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Michael J. Black" <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
Subject: Re: DIR talk vs DIR diving
To: Hans Petter Roverud <proverud@on*.no*>
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Hans,

Sherwood Maximus or Brute regulators work well in icy cold water.
I prefer the Dacor Extreme.  Scubapro regs (all of them) are more
prone to free-flow in icy cold, so much so that Mike Zee in Whitefish
Point won't even let you on his boat with one.

As for better systems, mine works well and is quite simple:  no dives
below 220 feet, using a large primary, a 30cf (or 40cf) pony, and
40cf sling bottle(s) if needed.  No doubles, and no dives that require
more than 45 minutes of deco (too boring with nothing to look at but
your buddy).  A fine selection of wrecks to look at in the Great Lakes
with this system.  Plus I dive from my own boat, and the captain is
always right.  Boating is as much of a hobby to me as diving, just
lots more expensive.

MJB

--- Hans Petter Roverud <proverud@on*.no*> wrote:
> At 07:59 AM 7/24/00 -0700, Michael J. Black wrote:
> While we're on the subject of DIR, here are a few more of my "esteemed"
> objections:  No computer (HELLO??!!)
> 
> No computer for deep diving with helium and gas switches. Today some 
> computers are available that handle helium but since you need a strict plan 
> for gas management as well as deco the perceived freedom of computers don't 
> apply several hundred feet down. You need a written backup plan anyway. I 
> use a computer for recreational nitrox diving but not for trimix.
> 
> Scubapro jet fins only (the cult
> leader has spoken)
> 
> There are several good fins and innumerous bad ones. Most rec fins are too 
> soft. The Jetfin, the Turtle fin and some rubber / plastic combos are 
> suitable.
> 
> Weight belt UNDER the BC strap (did I really hear
> that right, DIR disciple?)
> 
> By all means, if there's anything you don't want in technical diving it's 
> losing a weight belt. Rec divers ditch their belts and surface when the 
> going gets tough but that's not a viable option with a substantial deco 
> obligation. That's why most technical divers gravitate towards 
> non-ditchable weights on the backplate.
> 
> Only one buckle for the whole rig (you guys
> must practice taking your rig off, lots of practice)
> 
> Yes, it took me some tweaking and practice to get the shoulder straps 
> right. The key is to keep them fairly loose and tighten up the rig with the 
> crotch strap. More buckles mean more clutter and once you get the lengths 
> right one is just fine.
> 
> DUI drysuit (guess
> I'll just throw away my Vikings)
> 
> I use an Aquion shell suit and have used Vikings in the past. DUI makes 
> nice suits too. The main point is to avoid uncompressed neoprene (buoyancy 
> swing) and get one that fits you.
> 
> Scubapro regulators (do you turds
> know we call these Scubaflows in cold water, and I mean icy cold).
> 
> Scubapro as well as most other regs have freezing problems in icy water. I 
> use Apeks regs that are less prone to freezing, but even they are not above 
> the laws of physics. What regs do you prefer for diving in the Lakes?
> 
> Want a better system?  Start over, unless cave diving is your only diving.
> 
> OK, my diving is deep ocean diving, mostly wrecks. It's nitrox to 100' - 
> 130' and trimix beyond this. What would you suggest? As it is now I bring 
> what I need and try to place each item according to DIR protocol. What I 
> don't need, as a huge cannister light for a shallow daytime dive, stays 
> topside. Where would you see room for improvement? Please describe the best 
> set-up for the diving I do based on what you find best fit for wreck diving 
> in the Great Lakes.
> 
> Bye now, and don't forget to take your medication (ibuprofen, aspirin,
> steroids, plus all those anti-depressants so you can deal with being
> uninvited to tech-diving expos).
> 
> Nah, but it's time for my vitamin E. Thanks for the reminder! :-)
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
> 


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