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From: <billy@bd*.co*.au*>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:53:05 +1000
To: "Cavers List" <cavers@ca*.co*>, "Tech List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
At 05:15  18/07/00 , John McMillan wrote:
>Billy.
>
>You are evading the proposition, put up or shut up?

What, take two or three days away from business to give
a DIR demonstration to a bunch of DIR-hostiles in a 
country motel 1200 kms away? That's a PROPOSITION?

Are you kidding? And don't you idiots understand 'NO'?

Y'know, Johnnie, you and your subhuman sidekick Blundell 
had your chance to get it right from the horse's mouth - 
from JJ and Robert. TDI took that opportunity away from 
you.

When I said that was a shit act, you guys all jumped up 
screaming and said it didn't matter. It was no great loss.
I was told to shut the fuck up. That it was none of my 
business. That I didn't have a clue. That I didn't 
understand what I was talking about. REMEMBER?

Now you say you're desperate for me to come down there
to talk about DIR. Bullshit! You guys have no integrity.
No consistency. Once round the bowl and your memories are 
wiped clean. You conveniently forget the shit you were 
happy to dish out a coupla weeks ago.

Here's a clue for you. If you want to be taken seriously,
if you want to be acknowledged in the big world, you have 
to do some systematic thinking, identify your position, make
sure you've got it right, think it through clearly, make
it known coherently, and promote or defend it consistently.

So far, you guys are straight zeros.

rgrds billyw





>Johnny Mack.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <billy@bd*.co*.au*>
>To: Cavers List <cavers@ca*.co*>; Tech List <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 11:34 PM
>Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
>
>
> > At 08:55  17/07/00 , David Blundell wrote:
> > >Billy,
> > >
> > >Since with people like you it is impossible to reason with then like I
>suggested
> > >to Dave......
> > >
> > >That,  come to the CDAA AGM.
> >
> > Dave, read my post again. Gambier is 1200 km away. That'll
> > take more time than I'm inclined to spend away from business
> > right now. Especially for an idiot like you.
> >
> > But if you can get yourself to Sydney, we'll take you out
> > for a dive, and explain what we use and why we use it, and
> > what we do and why we do it.
> >
> > Tell you what, I'll even sit down and explain (again) to you
> > why it was A Bad Thing for TDI to can JJ and Robert from the
> > Oztech show at the last minute.
> >
> > You might even meet Dreddy.
> >
> > But somehow I think you'll be none the wiser by the time you
> > get back to Gambier.
> >
> > Anyhow, let me know.
> >
> >
> > >Contact me privately and I will personally take you to the mount,
>organize
> > >accommodation etc.
> > >I am sure that we can raise a collection for you Fuel etc.
> > >
> > >You can get up at a special presentation,
> > >
> > >Introduce yourself and teach everyone who attends the life saving
>principles of
> > >DIR.
> > >and explain to those that everything that they do is wrong.
> > >
> > >I.E. No sidemounts, no Poseidon regs, all Halcyon gear and so on.
> > >
> > >Put your face to the bullshit you spread and take the offer.
> >
> > While we're on the subject of bullshit, Dave, a thought just
> > ocurred: In another email you accused me of kissing the arse
> > of the people who make my gear. But it turns out that you had
> > no idea that I use Dive-rite classic wings, and don't own any
> > Halcyon products.
> >
> > So I guess this makes your accusation a fine example of that
> > there bullshit you mention, doesn't it?
> >
> > But it's more than bullshit, isn't it Dave? It's hypocrisy too.
> > Because a few posts ago, when you got your new DiveRite light,
> > you did the very thing you accused me of doing. You, in a series
> > of nauseating posts, kissed Diverite's ass so long and so hard
> > I thought that something was going to give...
> >
> > Dave, if you're going to accuse someone of kissing ass, make
> > sure you're not wearing a chocolate moustache at the time, OK?
> >
> > later
> >
> > billyw
> >
> > p.s: By the way, Dreddy was right about you.
> >
> >

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